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Shaner316
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HI, I am hoping someone can help me out with this.

I do a basic billiard ball manipulation, and was thinking of adding it to my regular birthday party set. What I am looking for is a story of sorts to go along with it.

The best thing I have been able to come up with myself is something along the lines of a child playing ball and a friend wants to play as well (introduce ball#2) then has to go for supper (vanish ball#2) then returns (reappear ball#2) eventually 2 other friens show up to play (produce ball 3 & 4)

I dunno, I am just not really keen on it, but cannot think of anything else.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Shane
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I like Pat Page's way of getting into his sponge ball routine; I think it could work here as well. You should get his tape on sponge balls and aside from using his patter in your multiplying balls you learn a couple really nice sponge ball routines.

Also Mark Wilson has a nice multiplying ball routine in his book.
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Shaner,
I think you story idea for the routine has a lot of potential. don't sell it short because you thought it up yourself! I would suggest you work it around a bit and try it out at a birthday party and see what lines, sequences, etc get the best reactions and embellish those and trim the fat of everything else. I think kids would relate to your storyline. Perhaps a repeat ball production put into a paper bag that turns into one big ball or a streamer or something to kick it up at the end. Changing many balls into one Nestle's Wonder Ball for the birthday kid would no doubt be a hit! Go for it and good luck!

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I would say cut all frickin stories and just do it to music. Nobody cares about stories anymore.
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I must respectfully disagree with Mr. Comedy on this one. When executed properly, stories can add substantive meaning to your magic and make it much more powerful and memorable for the spectators. I've used a story line with my multiplying balls routine for quite some time now and my audiences seem to love it.

As for the original request, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the story line you have developed. Stick with the story line and fill in the details, without giving much thought to the actual moves or the routine. This will ensure that you have a good, plausible bit of patter.

Then, visualize the moves that you would like to go with that patter. Notice I said "visualize" and not perform. You may not know how to even achieve the particular move quite yet, but it is something for you to work towards. With this approach, the learning of the technical moves becomes goal oriented, to fit into the story line. Once the moves are mastered, practice the timing and you will be set.

I've seen too many magicians develop routines the other way around - developing the story to fit the moves. As a result, the story seems very artificial and contrived. Remember, the magic should supplement the story and not vice versa.

Hope that helps.

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On 2005-01-27 05:59, Shaner316 wrote:
The best thing I have been able to come up with myself is something along the lines of a child playing ball and a friend wants to play as well (introduce ball#2) then has to go for supper (vanish ball#2) then returns (reappear ball#2) eventually 2 other friens show up to play (produce ball 3 & 4)

I dunno, I am just not really keen on it, but cannot think of anything else.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Shane


Shane, that is a great story. Don't forget to make the birthday boy one of your main characters !!!
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Dood seriously I agree with Comedy... why don't you just say something like I'm gunna do this cuz I think it's cool and I hope you do too I mean seriously I don't think anyone really cares about a story dazzle them and let your own personality show through you don't need a story for every effect one or 2 stories in a show... is fine but a show of stories about yourself is really pretty boring.
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Thanks for all the input guys, it is greatly appreciated.

Magicman845: "Develop the moves to fit the story" -- Thanks, great advice!!!

Bigchuck: Thanks for a point in the right direction!!

Comedy: I have tried different routines to music, and am not really sold on the idea for children. I would rather hav some sort of story/patter going on during an effect that involves the kids so they can participate (Like Silly Walter suggested, using the child's name in the story) rather then have them sit quietly and watch "Wonderful Me!"

As an adult, just sitting and watching a magician perform is enjoyable enough to most. With kids, you just can't expect them to sit there and enjoy it. Kids require more than just fancy tricks. They need to be ENTERTAINED, and having them not be involved, and sit there like bumps on a log to me is just a waste of what I am trying to accomplish as a magician.

I never say "Look at me!!! Look what I can do!!"

I do say "Look what WE can do"

Just my thoughts,

Shaner
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Does anyone offer a full set of gimmicked Billiard Balls?
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