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jolyonjenkins
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Any recommendations for a Coins Across using a [? I believe that David Roth has one, but his book is out of print. Not very keen on buying another DVD - prefer books.

Bobo has a very simple one which would do the trick, but it's really the same move done three times.

Dan Watkins has a routine whereby it's apparently all done in the spectator's hand, which sounds good. It apparently uses a gimmick, which I guess may be a [, but maybe not!

The reason for wanting to use a [, by the way, is that I've just got one! I can do Ammar's gaffless "simple" version, but it uses rather a lot of implausible false transfers and putting the coins on the table for no good reason.
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Check out Dean Dill's videos for on the mat coins accross.
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Try H&R magic.
I believe they have a David Roth lecture note for 10 or fifteen dollars.
You could call them and ask if his coins across is in it.
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A great routine is Paul Gertner's variation of Roth's routine...It is in his book Steel and Silver. Certainly worth looking into.
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A while ago I was on a similar search myself so I went through my library and studied all the shelled coins across I had access too. I decided that I like Roger Klause's routine from his book, In Concert, the best. He has a lot of subtleties that make it look and feel really clean. Besides that, the routine is constructed so that the repetiveness of a coins across routine is minimized. The first coins goes cleanly across, the second has a sucker bit which heightens the drama and heightens the conviction when the coin does actually travel and the third coin (it's only a 3 coin routine) goes into the spectator's closed hand.

I've since tweaked it a bit to make it more naturally fit my style but I still use several of Roger's subtleties and his method for making the final coin travel. As with everything Roger does, it's really well thought out and you'd be hard pressed to find any need for improvement. My current version isn't an improvement, only a variation.

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I'm in the process of learning Derek Dingle's coins across. It can be found in Harry Lorayne's Apocalypse (the first book of the series). It also ends up with the last transfer into the spectator's hand. If you get the book, there are tons of other great material from some of the best names in magic.

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Doug Brewer has a nice routine in his 'Unexpected Visitor' book - nice subtleties and not as repetitive as many of the versions out there (I have different versions for this depending on the situation). This is a great book for the walk-around performer, loaded with effects that you can actually use (all audience tested and practical). I have ordered Dan's book, and after I receive it, I will post my thoughts on his version here. I am sure it would be worthwhile to have the Klause version, and Roth's book is worth having, as there is a ton of material in there. Good luck -

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If you want a really visual one (that's unfortunately also hard to get ahold of) check out Homer Liwag's "Four Coins and a Filipino" in Magic Man Examiner #1.

I also heartily endorse Paul Gertner's "Familiar Ring".

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I forgot to mention the Klause routine. I have spent some time practicing this, and I think that it is above the others as it uses only three coins. It has the disadvantage of not happening, quite so in the hands, as "Familiar Ring", but it is still a very strong routine if you are using a [.
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I have been trying so hard to find Magic Man Examiner 1. Everytime I see it for sale, I am one step behind and it is sold before I can blink. I agree, the most visual coins across that I have ever seen is Mr. Liwag's 4 coins and a Filipino. I have tried working out my own way of accomplishing the effect, but it comes nowhere near the beauty of his routine.
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Larry Jennings has a similar routine to the Dingle one in his Classics. It is the one I use.
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Rjenkins,
I second El Mystico's recommendation. If you prefer books, get "The Classic Magic of Larry Jennings" by Mike Maxwell. The coins across routine in the book using a [ is called "Peripatetic Coins", which is very similar to the Roth Routine. Very clean, and the last coin travels from your hand into the spectator's hand.
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My "Coinvention Crossing" from Coinvanish Vol. 2 and will be on the COINvention DVD whenever that comes out, uses one of the phases of Homer's "4 Coins and a Filipino". It is basically "Three Way Crossing" from my website (also in the book) modified to be a more visual handling and incorporate the phase where you throw a coin across, but then it looks like it never went.

Three Way Crossing was my attempt to show both hands to contain the proper amount of coins both before and after the coins go across. I think it is a very clean 3 coin closed coins across.
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Dan, do you use a [ in Three Way Crossing?
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I really don't want to get into the methods publicly.

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I know I started this with asking for gimmicked versions, but I'm quite taken with this non-gimmicked version, which neatly avoids false transfers

http://www.zyworld.com/coinpurse/Articles91.htm

Not at all sure how to get a coin invisibly out of Tenkai. Any advice welcome
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Quote:
On 2005-01-27 11:07, rjenkins wrote:

Bobo has a very simple one which would do the trick, but it's really the same move done three times.



RJ,

Specifically, which trick in Bobo's are you speaking of here?
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I've been working on Coinvention Crossing and I will say it's the most challenging and ballzy coins across I've come across. It has great potential if you can get it down 100% of the time.
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John Born has a wonderful matrix effect which may be of interest to look at. It is in a spiral-bound book called Matrix God's Way, and is available from Steven's Magic in Wichita, Kansas. His book shows quite a few different variations, as well as altogether different matrix/coins across effects.
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MB217: I'm thinking of The Peregrinating Halves (p273 of the Dover edition). It lacks variety, to my mind.
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