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Richard Osterlind
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Fizbin,

I was not taking offense, just clarifying. As to the propless thing, think about this. You are limiting mentalism to telepathy. This has led to countless arguments on the Café about the use of props. But let me ask you, what about clairvoyance? Doesn't that require an object with which to demonstrate that ability. What about precognition? Don't you need something to record your forecast on and then supply a number of choices? What about psychokenisis? Don't you need something to bend or move. See?

By saying, "A real mentalist doesn't need to write anything or use any props" is taking away more than 3/4 of what the art entails! And along with that, you are taking away diversity and probably a lot of the entertainment value!

There are reasons why things are the way they are and why the greats were great. To haphazardly discount the foundations of the art in order to sound "pure" is to also strip away everything in the past that was successful.

Richard
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On 2005-03-02 12:27, fizbin wrote:

I am not saying that we should all walk about in black robes, carrying Negromicons, chanting spells, etc.



No?

Ouch! Let me go back home and change then...
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The question is, and this is something that is a bad habit of mine.. if you are using a NW or a billet switch or a TT or a Jinx bag or any number of things like that.. and the audience has NO IDEA.. is it "Cheating"? If you were a pharmacist about a hundred years ago, would you consider the new "pill dispensing, weighing, and counting machines" cheating because they made your job easier? I guess what I'm saying is that isn't the end result the thing? I did Anneman's A Question and an Answer the other day. It BLEW MINDS APART. I got my favorite phrase uttered (That boy is of the devil) .

SO does it really matter that I'm not "of the dev ill" when everyone thinks I am?
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On 2005-03-02 20:57, JarrodHenry wrote:
The question is, and this is something that is a bad habit of mine.. if you are using a NW or a billet switch or a TT or a Jinx bag or any number of things like that.. and the audience has NO IDEA.. is it "Cheating"?



IMO, it isn’t.

You are using the tools of your craft, in the same way any other professional does. People has no idea about how an artist creates perspective, or about that ingredient that makes a chef’s speciallity so unique. People is there to enjoy your craftmanship, among other things, and part of the magician’s craft is to tell people that his hands are empty, went they aren’t.
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