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emeline
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I have got the Duvivier coin box and even if it's really hard to master, it's an interesting trick. What is exactly the difference between the okito and the Boston box?
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Slight problem with the Ammar DVD is that he doesn't have that many killer routines, and for a lot of the sleights he teaches, he has no routine at all - eg he has nothing that uses the goshman pinch, or any of the loads that he teaches. Whereas the routines often use the same sleights several times - eg his coins across uses two consecutive retention vanishes whereas I wonder if it might have been better to use a steal for one of them.

His coin to key is very good. Straight out of Bobo, though.
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On 2005-02-16 03:58, Clarioneer wrote:
DO NOT get an Okito Box - they are not easy utility items to use WELL.

Reminds me of a little kit hanging by a cash register in a toy store. It costs <$10 and contained a plastic Okito Box. I guess the kit explains how to use the turnover move to vanish the contents or have 'em penetrate the hand. Kits will be given as gifts to children who might read the instructions, but surely won't learn to do the turnover well. What a shame to spoil all the routines by giving that away! I'd also guess that anyone who learned the 45 sleights Roth created to do real Okito Box magic would feel weak to hear a spectator (who had read the kit's instructions) and say 'I know how all that's done.'
Probably because I am not very skilled yet, but I have had some friends dismiss lots of moves that would have fascinated me just because they know or suspected some gimmick related to the trick being shown.
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Boston Box has a recessed bottom which can be used for various purposes...
catch you later

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[quote]On 2005-04-04 13:42, ehands wrote:
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On 2005-02-16 03:58, Clarioneer wrote:
I have had some friends dismiss lots of moves that would have fascinated me just because they know or suspected some gimmick related to the trick being shown.

This is why I don't use Okito boxes or any other "non-real world" props.
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I like Bobo and Roth coin books. Some parts are difficult to understand at first, but if you play around with the material, you'll get it. I'd start with Bobo's book first.
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I just went to a Roth lecture, and he had the best Okito coin Box(s) and Okito Coin Box work that I have ever seen, extremely solid, extremely magical, extremely clean material. Definately worth looking into.

The kit that he was selling came with three boxex (for different uses) and a full manusrcipt. The boxes were all designed by him with subtle advancements that add a lot!

This was the first time I ever wanted to get ANY box stuff (no money! AARRRGGG).
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Thanks ive been helped in this thread too!!!
Thanks again
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