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Keith Runion New user 30 Posts |
Does the handling require you to show the card in your wallet first or can you just have a card selected and have it end up in your wallet?
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Werner G. Seitz Inner circle 3131 Posts |
Quote: I'm afraid, miracles take a little longer..
On 2005-03-21 14:31, Keith Runion wrote: All these 'easy to do' methods actually are shortcuts to a 'real' card in wallet.. This goes for the Mullica wallet, this goes for each of the other great 'inventions' too.. There is no selfworking, practical, straight forward and at the same time 'powerfull' card in wallet in existance. Only one way..and that is the way Pat Page used, Paul Daniels used, Derek Dingle, Fred Kaps and so many others..
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Markymark Inner circle 1686 Posts |
Good point...but sometimes the journey is more interesting then the destination.
Or in other words I would rather see Eugene Burger perform the card to wallet then see Paul Daniels perform the card to wallet.And the Mullica is not easy to do well...
''In memory of a once fluid man,crammed and distorted by the classical mess'' -Bruce Lee
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Cody S. Fisher V.I.P. Austin, Texas 1194 Posts |
Dear Keith,
To answer your question, no you do not have to show the card in the wallet from the beginning of the routine. You could simply have it appear there! To comment on Mr. Seitz remark...Yes I would generally agree with you on this for MOST versions of card to wallet. I am very capable of palming cards and do so for other routines. When I designed this particular "impossible" card to wallet effect...I tried to accomplish the effect using sleight of hand. I tried many different variations and simply could not make it work. The best solution was to use a gimmick. The gimmick makes this routine self-working and seemingly more impossible than your ordinary card to wallet. (see product description) You also stated that "there is no self working, practical, straight forward and at the same time 'powerful' card in wallet in existence." Again this is an opinion stated as fact. Unless you have seen my version I do not understand how you can make this bold assumption my friend. I would definitely disagree as to how "powerful" this version plays...I used it as "my closer" to my Magic Castle act. (Both close-up and parlor) The lay audiences were blown away...and after just about every show there were magician's asking me about it. When it comes to performing for real audiences “the method” is not important to me. I will sometimes use a sleight…on other effects I will use a gimmick. My only concern is “the effect”. For me the proof is in the reaction of the audience. Respectfully, Cody S. Fisher MUM Magazine P.S. For those of you waiting on this...the second batch will ship out to you tomorrow!
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Keith Runion New user 30 Posts |
Cody,
Thanks for your reply I greatly appreciate it. Cheers, Keith Runion |
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Cody S. Fisher V.I.P. Austin, Texas 1194 Posts |
No problem Keith,
If you do get the effect...send me a PM and I will tell you the routine I use where the card just appears in the wallet. Take Care, Cody S. Fisher MUM Magazine
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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts |
OK,OK,OK!!! I just opened my very thin package from Hocus-Pocus.
I opened it up and saw that picture of Impossible card to any wallet. Continued to open that up and what I saw really confused the heck out of me. Then I skimmed through and saw that there was no mistake and it was what it was said to be. I have yet to read this in its entirety, But I must say Cody "Your a sneeky sneeky man!" Ive always wondered while watching CSI how a killers mind must work when it comes up with some of the plans and ideas it takes to kill someone and get away with it. And you my friend have that type of mind. Im just glad you use it for good. Great thinking on this. Once I use it I will say more of my thoughts. Untill then, I'm off the read. Oh just one question. Does it have to be blue? You know what I'm talking about.
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Cody S. Fisher V.I.P. Austin, Texas 1194 Posts |
Dear paisa23,
No...definitely does not need to be "blue". I just used that as an example. I would have included a little piece of that stuff in the package but my being in Texas it was just not practial. A few months before marketing this I sent one to a friend in Florida...and "the stuff" melted! Lesson learned... You can use any similiar substance to hold the gimmick in place. Take care my friend, Cody S. Fisher MUM Magazine P.S. I will always try to use my powers for good! ;-)
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Michael Dustman Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 1220 Posts |
Mine's White. Couldn't find blue.
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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts |
Mines is beige. I figured that would work as well.
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
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On 2005-03-21 14:45, Werner G. Seitz wrote: What? The palm method? Should you be able to do a clasic palm to be a "real" Magi????? Well, Ramsey had hands so small, he couldn't classic palm and was considered ( by Vernon ) one of the greatest coin men in the world. Werner, take a high colonic and try Cody's effect. It will SLAY the person(s) you perform it for!!!!
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Classic palm when you can bottom cop? Tsk Tsk...
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
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On 2005-03-25 00:34, Pete Biro wrote: Pete, you caught me ( as usual ) the Cop ( thank you Larry ) is always preferred!!!!!!
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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts |
Cody I am working on this since I got it yesterday and I have a few questions.
1. When the card box is closed, Will the lip disturb the speacial powerful thing? 2. Also I suggest to those who don't have it yet to remove the jokers. (Less bulk) 3. What is the KM move? I am a novice at cards and my slieghts are pretty good. 4. Can this be done with a red deck? you just lose on the color change at the end right? 5. I tend to riffle the cards ALOT. Will that disturb the TC? I touch everything new with kitten like hands. 6. Last if for some reason (like I tend to do with folding quarters) throw away the SC, Can replacements be purchased or will I have to get a whole new package? Congrats once again.
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FTAMagician Loyal user 291 Posts |
Oh wow I HOPE I get this today!!! It's due as mine was supposed to go out with that next bunch on the 22nd...but (and this might be a BIG but!!??) I called and ordered "Re-Attached" from Hocus also....and was told they'd send 'em both together but not for another day as "Re-Attached" wasn't in stock!!!
I have this WORRY that Cody's effect won't be sent until they get more "Re-Attached"'s (!!??) and by then the second group will be gone!!?? Reading the above posts has me more curious than ever about how this works!!!! HOPE I know by later today or at least Monday!!!!??? |
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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts |
LOL let me know. what you think when you have it it confused me like nothing before, Not at all what I expected but very happy I got it.
Posted: Mar 25, 2005 10:12am OK been practicing it now. (sigh) one more thing, should this be done as a closer or could you PM me with a clean up so I can continue with the same deck if chosen not to do it as a closer. Also when you place the cards back into the box. you said you could do this surrounded right. PM me if you must.
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Robert M Inner circle 2482 Posts |
Sorry, but I agree with Werner. Plus, I don't believe this can be done close-up effectively. Again... just my opinion.
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Michael Dustman Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 1220 Posts |
Well... I have no problem palming a card or cards. I still do it with my BKM wallet if I am wearing a jacket while strolling and I do it in my stand-up act doing a cards to pocket routine.
However, I will stand by my review of doing it effectively close-up and surrounded. I have alternated performing Cody's card to wallet, and the BKM wallet at at least 6 gigs now in the past couple of weeks. In just about every instance (with the exception of being behind a bar) the times I did Cody's routine I had people on all sides and I was placing the box with the gaffs on the spectators hand. So I guess I question whether when you mean effectively, you are referring to lay audiences or magicians. Paisa, I add the stack on after doing a series of effects with the deck. I am having someone pick a card and sign it. They show it to everyone else while I turn my back so I can't see their card. In that 2 seconds, I have now loaded the gaff. And you do not need to be careful with the lip of the box. As I realized when practicing it, don't even think twice about it. Just shut the box regularly like you would any other time in your life. You will not dislodge it. Michael |
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MagicbyCarlo Inner circle has squandered his time making 1062 Posts |
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On 2005-03-21 14:45, Werner G. Seitz wrote: I disagree, yet again. To say that there is NO other powerful method than the one used by “Blah Blah Blah” is ridiculous! I guarantee that if you put two lay people in a room that have seen card to wallet done the traditional way or the Mullica wallet way there will be little difference in the wow factor. This teeth grinding over which method is the absolute best is magical masturbation! If a method works for you and fits your style and entertains and fools your audience, don't let anyone convince you that the method is inferior. There is nothing "easy to master" about the Mullica wallet method or any method for that matter, each requires just as much misdirection, skill and talent to perform well as any other method. If the only thing you worry about carrying your effect is method, then you are weak in the most important part of being a magician and that is entertaining your audience.
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Werner G. Seitz Inner circle 3131 Posts |
I was talking about a straight forward handling and not about having half a dozen wallets inside each other, holding the deck in the hand and placing a wallet on it -without any logical motivation then, it has to be done, due to the trickery-, this I've seen even done at a table, also having the wallet slapped the deck with the wallet to get a pick-up via a m****t.
I prefer a 'direct' way and most of these 'selfworkers' are not at all direct, but one first has to remove a card from the wallet to tell them to look at another place for the selected card or similar 'doarounds' to get to the wished result. I wouldn't say, some of these 'doarounds' methods are not working, but fact is that often pppl prefer them because of they are 'easy' to do. This again results in they don't spend the needed time to practise and do it well. WHEN done well, a lot of those methods do work and might be great to watch! Still, those doing it the 'classical' way, normally have studied the handling and misdirection they NEED to pull it off..and as it is straight forward they can concentrate on their presentation, which normally also is straight forward.. JMHO...anybody can use the method they like, I'm just not sure I would appreciate watching them do it, when done badly.. Selfworkers can be great, but they still have to be handled well and presented well. Those having seen *Mike* Gordon Miller doing the Afghan Bands will understand what I mean.. He used a selfworker and turned it into a great piece of entertainmaint..those doing the same with any of these selfworking wallets will -no doubt- be a joy to watch..as mentioned, fact is, that genrally those I've seen using those 'shortcut' routes to CTW, don't do it well.
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