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Dear friends,I am thinking of buying a book on this subject but while searching the internet I found this book also: "THE PROFESSIONAL ART OF STAGE HYPNOSIS,
In his site he says : "For many years people considered “Hypnotherapy” by Dave Elman to be the best book on therapeutic Hypnosis and Ormond McGill’s “Encyclopaedia of Stage – Hypnosis” to be the Bible for learning Hypnotism for use on Stage and for entertainment purposes. HOWEVER THAT HAS ALL NOW CHANGED!"
Does anyone has this book?

Thank you very much in advance...
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You might ask this question, or do a search to see if it has already been asked, on the Mentalist section (just below this one on the menu)
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I don't know that one but, I can assure you that most anything composed by Ormond McGill, Arnold Furst and Jerry Valley has a great deal of solid experience as well as time proven validity to it. If you want to learn about hypnosis start with Ormond's original book on Stage Hypnosis then get signed up for Jerry's two day workshop (or buy his video course). I'll warn you up-front, Hypnosis is not the mysterious "beat all" bit of science so many of us have fantasies about. Stage hypnosis in particular simply requires having some very large GONADS... it's just that simple! Showmanship, fast thinking and a general course of action that's been well plotted. The only act I've seen that requires even greater savvy was Orville Meyer's TELEPATHY IN ACTION.
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Having looked at some of Mr. Royale's material on line, I would unhesitatingly go with Ormond McGill and make sure that you take his Encyclopedia with a large grain of sale - many of the routines in it are out of date ad a couple (challenge hypnotism in particular) are downright dangerous.

If you want to be a stage hypnotsit (and a new one seems to be popping up every few minutes, glutting the market with the inexperienced, underpriced and actually unmotivated) get professional training in an actual classroom first. If you do not know or understand terms like "abreaction, misreaction, spontaneous regression" and "misintrpreted or unspecified posthypnotic triggers" then you are asking for a world of problems should one of these admittedly rare phenomena occur during your shows.

Also, having a professional certification from a quality professional hypnosis organization is often a requirement for getting professional liability insurance.

Try and take a look at their training referral page.

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Thnx a lot guys for your posts
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I bought and returned the Ormond book...
I got the gist of it in a few reading sessions...

the bottom line is you need big cohones, and the total participation on the part of the volunteer...

I will stick to my one on one vibes...stage and intimate hypnosis arguably differ greatly....stage hypnosis is just that: stage(d)

even if the volunteer fails to realize how much theyre helping and creating the results, it is so everytime...the bright lights, the crowd, the "hypnotist's" commanding role et al, all play a huge role in achieving the effects...tell them what to do, and in such a situation, theyll do it!!!

what I tell my subjects is that it is a guided "meditation" of sorts, and depends greatly (again) on the participation on their part...I, as the "hypnotist," plant but the seeds out of which the notion of hypnosis may is they who must reap the benefits...

From all the tests he offers in his book goes to show just how ridiculous you can get, and still achieve great results...the angles are infinite once you have the subject's trust, and concentration...

bottom line is that one must study as much upon the subject as possible, and eventually something becomes abundantly clear...just how easy it CAN be to achieve this "state."

some good advice Ive learned is practicing on your self!! that's right, go through the routines, suggestions, etc. within your own minds, and you'll at once see their relevance...

whatever you do...DONT think of how SOUR lemons are.......

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Hmmmm, Ormond McGill or Jonahan Royle.......?
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I think that Kaipk is just another Café name for Royle...Just like all of the others. His MO is always the some name dropping...and then ask for a review of "His" book. Happens all the time.
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Many people who hypnotize shouldn't. Listen, I mean LISTEN, to Lee Darrow.

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You are absolutely right. Lee knows his onions about hypnosis. I've been involved with hypnosis since I was about 12 years old. I got hold of some of my dad's hypnosis books and ran with it. I got into some trouble with it when I was in my late teens.

I took some psychology courses while I was in college. More recently, I took a course in stage hypnosis from a fellow who also knows his stuff. There were two things that I figured he should cover, because a hypnotist I had worked with (licensed kind, not self-taught, like I was) had gone over them with me, and explained the ins and outs of them. He did, and he got it right, as far as I could see. I'm not going to go into detail on them here, but they were two big pitfalls an inexperienced hypnotist will have to look out for.

Just to summarize, hypnosis is a much more complicated subject than most of us realize. It takes more than just a couple of books, a tape, or a three day seminar to really understand what's going on.

I could go out tomorrow and start doing stage hypnosis. But I know that I am really not prepared for it. And as Lee said, the market is being diluted by the deluded.
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Lets be frank here,
jonathon royle is a joke, he is all hype, nothig else !
his name should not be mentioned in the same company as ormond mcgill, jerry valley, etc.
don't take leave of your senses and waste any money on royles rubbish.
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