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Sean
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I have a mini chop cup and a set of mini cups. The final loads I'd like to use for these are one or more golf balls and a hard plastic eyeball. Thing is, they clink against the cups a lot when I load them. Could you experts out there provide some advice on how to avoid having hard loads like these talk when they enter the cup?

As always, thanks in advance.
Kent Wong
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You could line the inside of your cups with felt. I did that with one of my sets of cups and it works extremely well.

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If you go to various toy departments (WalMart etc.) you may find "golf" balls made of softer materials. Another option is to substitute Fakini Manipulation Golf balls for the real McCoy, they are made of a silicone material and do not talk. Another option is the small "tennis" balls sold in pet stores.

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Tghings you could try: Once one load is produced you can use the noise it produces to distract from the noise of the next load. Such as dropping the first ball onto the table as you load the second. You can use the wand as a distraction, or load the ball above the table top and put the cup onto the table top with some force to cover the noise. This is if you are not using a pad. Keep the loaded cup on the palm of your hand and reveal it. You could coat the golf balls with clear polyurethane, it gives it a rubbery softer surface. There are lots of things you could do. Practice will lessen the need to cover the noise as finesse in cup handling works wonders.

If you do decide to line your cup (a practice I am against) I would suggest using flocking rather than gluing felt. Flocking is a material that is fiberous and when put into a container that has been spray glued, the material adheres to the glue and the excess is removed.

If you have ever seen a trick that appears to have a black or colored sort of fuzzy lining that almost looks form fitted, it was most likely flocked.
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If you don't want to line your cups or alter the balls (though I recommend the Fakinis also), time the load so you have the load and ball in one hand while the other hand knocks one cup against another, thus masking the sound.
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Using Balata type golf balls will help. There are different ones generally designed for high spin and workability round the greens.
Doc Dixon
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Read Kaufman's Steel and Silver and study the routining of Gertner's ball bearing routine. If it's possible to keep steel ball bearings from talking, it's possilbe to keep golf balls from talking.

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Darn, I was hoping you were loading animated things like Furbys.

Oh well, since the days of Conus, a slight check on the ball can get it to stop under the cup without hitting. Paul Gertner has been doing something clever in his cups routine for over twenty years that is in print. Well worth going out and buying the books or videos.
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There are a number of alternatives.

I prefer the Fakini golf balls for use with the "Little Don" and other similar chop cups. However, Fakini balls are not cheap. If you want something that is a bit less expensive, there is a practice ball called "AlmostGOLF," which costs about $1.00 per ball. There is just one hitch. You have to buy a dozen of them at a time. Also, they are available only in colors. But they have a soft, noiseless surface.

You can also get silicone balls that look like eyeballs. This will eliminate the noise of the eyeball.

There is another method. Use a soft chop cup. Leather chop cups have the advantage of not talking with a hard load.

There are other advantages as well.

Rick Brooks has made some really nice leather ones which are reviewed elsewhere on this forum.
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Walmart has yellow golf practice balls, soft sponge material but rigid. They cost 2.28 for a 4 pack. Coming to a Walmart near you.

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Leather cups provide numerous advantages. Quiet final loads are one of the advantages.
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Another practical idea = toy stores and even food stores (Safeway here in AZ) in their racked toy section currently have a bag of 4 golf-ball-size rubber replicas of sports balls; soccer, basketball, in an assortment of colors. These retail for around $2 or $3 for all 4 in a single package.
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Use fruit! that's my remedy!
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Years ago I bought some rubber vegetables with funny faces. Forget where though.
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