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Brian Proctor
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You can also find it on the Greater Magic Cups and Balls teach in video. Ammar makes it very clear.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but Vernon used the Silent Mora spin. It seems to be incorrectly called the Vernon spin.

Kirk G helped me with a flaw in my spin and now it is better.

Off topic, but with the new Porper dice stacing cup, I have finally been able to do the "decapitation" sequence.

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On 2005-03-04 22:06, Pete Biro wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but Vernon used the Silent Mora spin. It seems to be incorrectly called the Vernon spin.
Of course you are correct Pete, but Silent Mora solely did it with a fan, so using a wand and the probably needed alternativs of the move where/are Dai Vernons..there is some other inertia when using a fan and I think it also is more tough to used a fan, never ever tried it out..
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This has been helpful as I am interested in this sleight.
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Pete, it talks about all that on Cups and Balls vol 2 by Ammar.
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Mora used it for a billiard ball vanish, and Vernon adapted it to C&B-i think.
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On 2005-03-03 05:25, Steve Brooks wrote:
I enjoy doing the spin around the thumb as taught by David Williamson, it is just fun to do. Like everything else, I learned to do it with either hand, so depending on the situation, I'm still able to perform the move. I remember when I was first learning this way back when, I can't count the number of times my wand flew across the room! Smile


David's is the most natural and effortless looking. I think it's the one that the late Texas Magi Johhny Brown taught David. I broke a wall mirror trying to learn it!!
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On 2005-03-04 22:06, Pete Biro wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but Vernon used the Silent Mora spin. It seems to be incorrectly called the Vernon spin.

Pete, as Werner pointed out...Mora used a fan as opposed to a wand. All Mora did was waved the fan over the hand...Vernon added the spinning of the wand which actually made the move much more deceptive!

Mike
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As I understand it, the fact that Vernon adapted the spin to use the wand is the reason the move is correctly referred to as the Vernon-Mora Wand Spin. At least, that's how it was called on the Ammar tape where I learned it.
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The Mora vanish was just a drop vanish using the fan as a cover, similar to the very end of the Vernon vanish. Dai Vernon added the spinning part which, when properly done, makes it look like the hands never come close to one and other. If yours doesn't look like that, then you are missing something.

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Taking one of the suggestions here, I dug out my old Cups and Balls Tape from Stevens. Ammar's explanation is excellent. I did drop it to DVD to make it easier to control, but that wouldn't be necessary for someone not as slow as me.

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