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PJMehta
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Hello,

Recently, I have become really interested in Don Wayne's Dream Vision, but I'm not too sure how it works. I've seen DC perform it, but I'm still baffled. I know it utilizes a hidden assistant, but that's all I know. I would really like to know more, so if anyone could PM me, I would really appreciate it. Thank you.
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Sorry PJMehta;

But the Café is not the place to ask for the secrets behind the illusions. The Café is here to help those who already own illusions/tricks etc, to help devolope their routines and get the best out of them. If you are unsure as to the working, I am sure that you can find one (even a Mini Dream Vision) available somehwere. Just post on here and ask. You never know what you may find. But secrets will not be revealed here.

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PJMehta
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You probably say that because this my first post to the magic Café, and you most likely want to avoid secrets like these to fall into the wrong hands: magic forum imposters, or something. I'm not the only one who's asked for workings behind illusions. The reason I ask is because I was interested in purchasing this illusion from Don Wayne himself for $2950. There are many members that have asked for this type of information through PM's, as well as offered to give insight to this type of info. If I was really that new to this, I would have just asked for it openly instead of asking to PM me.
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I understand that. But at the same time, if you are asking for INSIGHT we are more than willing to provide that. The exact workings...no.

Matt
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Magic Monkichi,

Sorry to sound like chump.....thanks anyway for your help!
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Perhaps I am confused.

Yes secrets and inner workings are revealed here. You have access to post such questions and answers in the Secret Sessions part of this forum. You will have acess to that area once you have 50+ valid posts. So I don't think you sound like a chump, we all got over anxious when we first get on here. Start offering your opinions and suggestions on other threads and before you know it you will be qualified.
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I've never heard of Dream Vision. Last time I saw Copperfield was Fall of 2003, is this effect new to his show? Can anyone describe the trick to me? I don't care about the method, I just like to keep up to date on the tricks DC is using.
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Its not Copperfields new illusion. Its a very old one. Near the statue of liberty series period. It was on the special where he does the duck cannon illusion and impaled illusion. Hope you remember. Basically he invites a girl on stage and asks her to dream that shes out on a date. He then makes her weave a story of what they did on the date, where they went etc. All off the cuff. Throughout the effect theres a black board standing behind them in full view. When she finishes her story he uncovers the blackboard and on it is the same dream saying "i met this girl at such and such a place. She was wearing ______color clothes......we went out to ______ and kissed good bye at ___________ street etc".

Nice effect but not that powerful. because it involves only one girl and just her imagination. Many people will suspect her to be an accomplice, even though shes picked by throwing a rose into the audience.

Mehta > firstly this is a very expensive effect. You are a new user so definitely its not gonna be easy to just walk in and ask for the keys. LOL. Ull have to put some work into it. But basically if you can afford an effect like this from don wayne. Im sure you are of some stature in the magic industry. Now why would someone who can afford something like this from Don Wayne be asking for clarifications on the magic Café ?. Please don't get me wrong I'm trying to think aloud as other members will be thinking now. About completing 50 posts and getting into the secret forum...LOL...nice try. Give it a shot. RSD was trying to be optimistic there. They don't give you the keys even in that forum. Try asking for a secret directly on the Secret Sessions. Unless you make some good friends here your not gonna get anywhere. And if you can afford it. Then why not ask Don Wayne himself. Im sure a man of his position wont let you down with false info. Finally I really doubt you should buy something so expensive when you don't even know the bare workings. You should know that you need an expert team to pull it off. And if you had such a team etc you would have guessed the complete working of the illusion on the 3rd veiwing of the illusion (like I did when I was a KID). Its not that tough an illusion to guess. It has some very obvious answers in the performance itself that any magician with at least average knowledge will figure out. But don't expect to walk into the secret forum and ask for a secret. Though it was meant for that. It doesn't happen. you'll be lucky if you got some nostradamic riddled answers. LOL ...best of luck anyway.

Can I give you a real secret Mehta....

WHEN YOUR REALLY FIXED ONTO SOMETHING. MORE OF THAT SOMETHING STARTS HAPPENING TO YOU.

Just keep breaking your head on it. Almost all of the secrets to illusions can be cracked within your own mind. Im serious. Think logically. that's the way I learned most of my magic. With no mentor at all. Suddenly one day ull find the answer popping into your head outta nowhere.
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I found out the answer....thanks for all your guys' help.

Oh yeah, and plainman007, no need to push the fact that you figured out how the illusion works when you were "a KID." Sometimes, regardless of how experienced you may be, there are some things that you may have trouble discovering. So ease off. I got the point about not revealing secrets on this forum, so there is no need to continue replying to this topic.
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I worked with an illusion show that toured with a Don Wayne Dream Vision back in the mid-90's. I was really excited when we got it in, because it had been my favorite prediction effect I had ever seen.

Still love the effect to this day, but will most likely never add one to my show. For one reason, the need of an assistant to pull it off. I don't always perform with an assistant. Secondly, you will need at least a small U-Haul or very large van to transport this effect. Until we traveled with a large spike escape that were 3 large ATA cases, Dream Vision was one of the largest cases in our inventory. Thirdly, this is not your living room parlor effect. You will need a stage or at least a platform with wings to pull this off. If you aren't regularly performing on a stage, that this effect is a huge investment to sit in storage and to be used once or twice a year.

Luckily thanks to Don Wayne, and Larry Becker, I have the opportunity to perform a 12 minute routine loosely based on Dream Vision that can be peformed absoultely anywhere and plays much bigger. (then again, it was 7 years in development).
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Im sorry PJ. About finding out the method when I was very young, that was only an example to specify how easy the technique was. Any good performer would have found it out when they were kids. It doesn't make me special. Im surprised you found it so easily AFTER being told that you could find it out by seeing the video. Maybe I inspired you to LOOK, heh. Regarding easing off. I wasnt on your back in the first place. This is an open forum where we can all share our opinions. You shouldnt have posted such a silly question if you didn't want to hear replies. Get your entire post removed if you don't want honest replies, rather than screaming at someone who was trying to help.
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Michael is right!

I owned one of these back in the late '80's/Early '90's and BOY was it a BIG CASE!

Great Trick, but BIG CASE!!!
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If the case was that big, I would have expected a whole lot more from that effect! "Packs Big" really needs to "Play Big" for the effort involved in hauling, set up, strike, etc, etc. This illusion is ok, but I agree with Plainman007, most will think you have a plant in the audience. More of a filler illusion. Pricy for the effect, but as illusions go, it is not that expensive.
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Right said Morning Star. Its nice to know someone thinks on the same lines. Like you say. Its not worth that much of investment. I know a few effects off the cuff which can give the same effect or even stronger without investing in so much. Thinking about it. I feel David Copperfields Graffiti Wall had a better imapct and entertainment value than this one. And its more convincing because of the multiple spectator involvement. What do you say Morning Star ?
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I agree with you, Plainsman007. The Graffiti Wall is a much stronger effect. Anytime you involve spectators the magic is validated to a greater degree. There are common elements between the Graffiti Wall Prediction and Don Wayne's Dream Vision. Is Graffiti Wall a Johnny Gaughn creation?

Graffiti Wall, if I remember correctly, was from his 1992 Flying Special, so for the layperson, the flying pretty much overshadowed everything else.
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Morning star, Could you look at my dove post I cant pm you and had a question
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Hi Morning Star. I don't know if Gaughan Invented or put together Grafitti Wall. But like you said and I was trying to emphasize. The audience pick seems to be cleaner. And gives the real randomness feel. Its a killer version of Dream Vision. More hep and slick too. If you wanna talk more about the inside work on it. Pm me. Take Care. Bye.
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That is a Don Waynes effect.

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On 2005-03-09 10:15, MorningStar wrote:
This illusion is ok, but I agree with Plainman007, most will think you have a plant in the audience.


Plainman007 and MorningStar:

I'm interested in your statement about the audience thinking that this effect calls for a "pl**t." If this is your belief on this one effect, what do you feel about mentalism as a whole?

Terry
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Hi Terry, I absolutely don't feel this way about all mental effects. I know mentalism has its own killers. What we (morning star & me) felt was that that particualr effct feels weak. It probably carried off only because it had Copperfield. Basically a one person mind reading effect that is so accurate and strong will have to look like a set up. In grafitti wall the brick is thrown several times. You can con once. Maybe twice. Not over and over with different spectators. Its more like reading the entire audiences minds in ADVANCE. The craziest thing is reading minds that have not even arrived to the show. LOL.
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