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Ian Broadmore
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Is it me or is MIND GAMES on Sky one the most boring mentalism show ever??. Marc seems a nice guy but the show sucks.
Ps/Who voted him the worlds greatest mindreader?? Smile
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I must say that I do not like Marc's performances either - but who am I?
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On 2005-03-06 10:26, Tom DeVoe wrote:
I must say that I do not like Marc's performances either - but who am I?

You are Tom Devoe.

Ian, You should do a show! I would love to hear what Marc would say...probably something like "good for him! keep on going!"...even if you,.."sucked".

Try to think before you type. One day you may meet Marc, and see his wonderful show,and realize what an engaging guy he is! That's why people stand up and clap at the end...also why he is on TV.

No hard feelings,
Andrew
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I saw the show first time around. I would guess they are repeats? Was a number of years ago. I attended Marc's lecture and I have to say it was very good and very enjoyable. Marc is probably better live and is quite charasmatic. I can't remember too much about the programme except it was great to see some of the effects being performed.

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I agree I met Marc a number of years ago and he come accross as a nice, engaging chap. But... I don't think the TV format does his personality any favours, just my opinion ( I assume I am entitled an opinion??) I just find the show boring. Andrew I do perform !! Full time. And yes like most pros I have died on my arse many a time -- that's showbusiness! Some people like the show some don't. It's about personal preferences & performance styles nothing more. I just think the way the show has been put together from a broadcasting view is staid, and slow. Maybe it would have been better with a live audience ? Not just three specs. No hard feelings Smile
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I've had the chance to see Marc's show in live in London and it was really good!!
I spent a good time and it wasn't boring at all!!
I think the tv format isn't doing him justice, from what I can read since I didn't saw the tv show!!
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TV would kill a performance or make a performance great. It's a different medium with different skill-sets.

Take the obvious example of David Blaine (not sure if you guys in Europe saw those shows). The editing and producing made him a star (and oh yeah, he himself may have contributed--ok that's a joke). But the success was mostly due to the innovative approach, at the time, of using TV to show-off the effects.

Marc may be out-of-the-loop on the producing end and/or may not fully understand the newest approaches in the medium. Maybe he should hire the David Blaine people.
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Have to agree with Ian. Bad show. As are the numerous other pieces of rubbish out there - Playing Tricks, Undercover Magic to name but a couple.
I disagree about Blaine. You may not personally like his style, but his "style" and technical ability works for his show.
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(I knew the Blain joke would get misunderstood).

I have nothing against his style-the joke was that other people do have problems. (You see I was anticipating that notion and then I was joking but at the same time was serious ... oh never mind.)

The basic point is that TV programs are produced by people who know that medium, and that Blaine's producers combined their art and his art correctly to make his shows successful. (Or maybe Blaine had enough TV savvy to come up with the ideas on how to produce the show. Which would make him some kind of genius.)
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If it's the same show that played here in the States I would have to agree a bit... but it was not Marc's fault. The show here was badly edited and tried to make Marc appear like a type of personality he is not.
Do yourself a favor and try to catch his live show... it rocks!!!
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I believe this is Marc's first television special which was originally shown here in the states on PAX-Television which is a VERY down-to-earth family channel. They wanted his basic stage show with a couple of location bits. As I understand it, one of the edgier bits had Marc on top of one of the World Trade Centers and artist Peter Max outside on the other with Marc duplicating a sketched picture. This wasn't even used.

Marc's second special, on the Sci-Fi Channel, went through a number of network managers who couldn't agree on what they wanted. Ultimately, that special came out dark and gloomy and certainly didn't showcase Marc's humor or fun-side.

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I must say I don't find Marc that entertaining - he is another Mentalist with too much of a magician-type presentation - a little bit smarmy. Interestingly, Bob Cassidy talks about a good mentalist not getting "How did you do that?" as a response to an effect yet all bar one of Marc's subjects in the recent BBC Magic series asked "How did you do that?" which is perhaps telling.

Regards,

David.
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Have you EVER seen Marc perform? Please I understand that you're speaking of his show, but negativity towards one project only hurts one's "PERSONAE" in show business.

I can say that Marc Salems stage show is phenomenal!
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A portion of it is to do with production values of the TV company making the show, and some of it being down to editing. Too much editing and it looks fake, too little and it can come across as boring for a TV audience. I think about 95% of it, however, comes down to the personality of the magician and his technical ability. So if a magician commits to a project that they know isn't suited to their style then it will show up badly on camera. Likewise if a production company pick a bunch of poor magicians, it will show up as glaringly bad on the screen. No amount of editing or high production values will save you ('Undercover Magic' anyone?)
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There seems to be confusion as to which Marc, I am talking about Mind games with Marc Paul, not mind games with Marc salem!.
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This is interesting... Marc Paul is rumored to have lifted his book test from another creator and now it seems he's lifted the title Mind Games (which has been associated exclusively with Marc Salem for the past 25 years). :-(

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Ian,,I tought yu were speaking of MARC SALEM!! also has a show called mind games.
thanks for clearing that up!
cheers Gerard
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Same thing here... I've never seen Marc Paul perform so I do not know... I was assuming you were speaking of Marc Salem.
His show on Broadway was amazing... and probably 50% or more of it came right out of Corinda's... shows what you can do with the old knowledge.
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"This is interesting... Marc Paul is rumored to have lifted his book test from another creator and now it seems he's lifted the title Mind Games (which has been associated exclusively with Marc Salem for the past 25 years)"

I'm just wondering whether it is acceptable for one performer to use another's show title e.g. here both Marc Paul and Marc Salem use Mind Games - would it be acceptable to market your show as "mind mysteries", for exapmle? Just curious. Tom
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I agree I saw Marc Salem last year in London, loved his show also have his performance at studio 54 on tape.
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