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hugmagic
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Yes, get out the hammer and saws and see why all the magic inventors and magic manufacturers stop releasing items to the public.

Patents are only part of the picture when it comes to the rights of things.

Build a BMW and if BMW determines that your model is hurting their business by reflecting on them poorly, they can sue (and probably win). Commercial sale of the reproduced item again is only part of the picture.

Richard
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magicofCurtis
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Richard,,,

You are allowed to build anything for personal use... It goes on the therory would it hold up in court... .Of course you would win... BUT at a hefty cost to you....

Besides,,,, many magician know... that profesional built items are much better, magical and in the long run more cost effected...... Smile

Keep in mind there are hundreds types of autos out there.... they are all different but.... they all take you to places (well they expose to take you to places) hehehe ... so illusions basic concept they are all magic... but amazes in different ways....

So invent, expand and enjoy
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First -- you are all right --and you are all wrong.

I have dealt with Jim directly over the years, and have never been dissatisfied with the product at the price. (Sometimes, as now when personal and family health matters intervene Jim's schedule and yours might not agree -- but MOST illusion builders not in the league with mulitple employee Owen and Smith face the same problem.)

Jim's experience (which he can readily share with you) comes from performing on the move -- USO-- schools in multi states, etc. He quickly saw why Lewis and Clark carried canoes -- not Chris-craft boats.
He has a unique ability to make very portable illusions out of sturdy materials by knowing what can be done. For instance there are pieces I have built out of 3/8 wooden material instead of 1/4 or 1.2. BUT the material is seven ply baltic birch - stronger than any 4 ply 1/4 and probably equal to the half inch at a much lighter weight.

Jim tends to use more common hardware for assembly -- and I know why. Even Podunk has a hardware store so you can get "one of those" to fix whatever it is that needs fixing.

He also keeps things as technologically simple as possible to create the magic. There is nothing worse than having a gimmick, that is complex hang up in performance. Most of Jim's pieces I have worked with can be rectified in front on the audience -- and they are none the wiser.

And why magicians "in the know" never discuss how Jim has been ripped off several times -- with one pro even stopping production of a prop when it was found that Jim was the originator .

I have some great stuff from other builders -- and love my See thru Guillotine from Wellington. I think my Chalet stuff is priceless. But it is NOT as portable and easily repaired as Jim's work-a-day portable illusions.

And yes - there is a piece or two over the years EVERY builder has sold that has not quite been right. At least with Jim's stuff I know repair and maintenance is well within my capability.
Gregg (C. H. Mara) Chmara

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magicofCurtis
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Gregg

You said it all....... ....
gulamerian
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I agree with everything that Gregg has said. I have mentioned in past posts that I own two of Jims illusions and they have served me well for over 18 years. Have they had to be repaired? Yes, so have my illusions from Wellington, Alcorn, Chalet, Owen, and Rand Woodbury. If you use them they will need to be repaired at one time or another. I have also spent many hours on the phone talking with Jim. He is a great guy and has a wealth of knowledge.
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Does anyone know Jim's website??? I cannot find it on google...
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KeirRoyale
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No I am looking for Jim Sommer's site. He used to have a banner on Magic Auction for his site.
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I don't know for sure he has his own web site.He sells his illusions through Klamm unless you call or see him at a convention.
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Dear KeirRoyal,

I don't think Jim Sommers had a banner at the magic-auction site since he is selling rip off illusions !
On the other hand Daniel Summers did have a banner at the magic-auction site till recently...
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I called Klamm magic and spoke to Mr Klamm himself, who kindly gave me Jim Sommer's phone number. I spoke to Jim. and he was very helpful with my questions about his pack-flat Zig Zag illusion. A nice man, with much knowledge and experience.

-todd
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KeirRoyale
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El Rafael - Thanks I believe you are correct...
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Now that jim has passed... has anyone taken over any of his business? I'm interested in who has the rights to his sword basket design.
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Only the magicians in Chicago, could advise information about the Jim Sommer's illusions. Magic Inc. will not talk to anyone, I tried several time so talk the new owners and they don't answer the phone or claim they don't know anything.

There is a book available with some of the Jim Somer's plans.

https://www.nightmarefactory.com/build-y......ers.html

Seems it is popular, most are out of stock, this site says they have 3 copies left.
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