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Allan Elite user 405 Posts |
I am try to find out anything about the (very old) Chinese water bowls effect(non gimmicked). Basically the magician dips one bowl into the other and scoops up some water. As the bowls are swirled, water overflows. The bowls continue to overflow as the bowls are swirled and swirled. You also drink from the bowls. No matter how much you drink and swirl out water, the bowls always seem to remain full and overflowing.
Have the bowls but can't remember the routine or presentation. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please lead me to the correct write up's. Seem to remember that it was written up but can't remember where. |
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hugmagic Inner circle 7665 Posts |
It is written up in the Sam Sharpe trilogy published by Mickey Hades. I think it is called Conjuroers Principles liquids etc.
It takes a good actor like Jeff McBride to pull it off.
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
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It takes a good actor like Jeff McBride to pull it off. ...and boy does he pull it off!
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts |
This trick lay dormant for many years until a Polish magician named Assan revived it in his work in beer gardens in Munich. Zauber Zantrale München issued a version of it. I translated the instructions for them. If I can find a copy of the instructions I'll see about sending them to you.
I saw Assan perform this many times while I was in Munich.
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irossall Special user Snohomish, Washington 529 Posts |
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On 2005-03-08 21:37, hugmagic wrote: It was "Poetry In Motion" when Jeff McBride performed this beautiful effect. It was my favorite part of the show. After each production of more water, Jeff McBride would gently tap the bowls together and produced the most beautiful ringing sound which really added to the effect. Iven
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I have this in print in a German publication.
Cas Boxley, in Oakland, Calif., used to do a great version he called "Mo Wata" using ordinary tea cups. No question, McBride has taken it to another level. An artistic one. If you can't do it justice... don't do it.
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bobser Inner circle 4179 Posts |
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On 2005-03-09 00:47, Bill Palmer wrote: Hi Bill, I see I can't pm you (not sure why) but I was wondering if either you can pm me or if someone can contact Bill. This is the Chinese waterball effect and I'd very much like to get my hands on a copy. regards, bobser Posted: Sep 18, 2008 10:07am The above of course is actually called The Chinese 'Waterbowl' effect. sorry.
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Vick Inner circle It's taken me 10+ years to make 1120 Posts |
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Sam Sharpe would be gods name The books most needed to be read, can be obtained by few and understood by fewer The Waterbowl effect is one of the most beautiful
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts |
The reason you can't PM me is that I turned off my private messaging. I did this because every time someone rediscovers my Scotch and Soda routine, my message box fills up. So, you are going to have to figure out how to e-mail me.
Hint -- look at my profile.
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BryanKelly Regular user 191 Posts |
Does anyone know where I can purchase a set of these? Yes, I've searched a lot :/
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts |
They are not available ANYWHERE. The German production was extremely limited.
Assan made his own bowls.
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bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 7024 Posts |
Hocus pocus has a set of water bowls.
on their hot list right now.dont know if this is the set that you want or not. |
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Tregar New user New York 12 Posts |
Saw a version here, but much more pricier than Hocus-Pocus.
http://www.siam-magic.com/product_detail.php?pid=54 |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24315 Posts |
I seriously doubt that these would work at all. The real ones are not hemispherical. They look like it, but the dimensions are slightly "off."
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magicjluc New user australia and France 61 Posts |
A French magician named Mimosa (2nd price FISM comedy magic 1991) do a fantastic version of it with regular chinese bowl. I performed with him for a couple of month and couldn't stop watching him doing it. He published it in French in a book call "Magie sans artifice"...but it haven't been translated.
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Maddies Ghost New user 41 Posts |
Just to bump this,Jeff McBride performed this on Penn and Teller Fool Us Thursday. I want sure what was happening but again Penn and Teller claimed to be fooled. By what I have no idea.
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smike New user 14 Posts |
The trick didn't translate to TV very well. It also rankles me when P&T award a trophy to someone not because of the trick, but because of their reputation. It demand them and the show.
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MeetMagicMike Inner circle Gainesville Fl 3504 Posts |
McBride's water bowl illusion is one that just doesn't do it for me. Even when I saw him do this live a convention I just didn't see any magic. I think he got a standing ovation so I'm in the minority. I suspect that it's just one of those routines where the effect is not strong on its own but the "Theater" elevates it for a lot of people.
This particular Fool Us episode was odd because there were two tricks were P & T said there was no "trick" (The water bowls and the dice stacking" but they declared that the water bowls fooled them and the dice didn't. Confirming that "Fool Us" isn't to be taken literally. That's ok with me. It's a great show. |
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JNeal Inner circle I used to have 999 posts, now I have 1623 Posts |
This exact subject... of as to whether P and T were 'fooled' has been discussed in the illusion section of the fora.
This show can not be taken literally.. First and foremost it is a reality SHOW, not a REALITY show. the emphasis is on SHOW. Like other reality shows, it's relationship to being real is subject to the whims of the producers. As has been noted, they tend to reward their friends and other notable names in magic with a "FU" award and the decision is arbitrary. BTW- this trick was written up in Genii Magazine (in Loyd's column?) circa 1964-65 and is listed under the title More Water by Harry Mendoza... using tea cups
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Eugene Chekhov Elite user ~Magic~ 453 Posts |
I think that if Jeff had not given them a cup in their hands, they would have been exactly fooled!
Awesome illusion - I do not understand why many do not like this? Magic is diverse, I'm glad that such great ideas find a new life in the 21st century. You can find the secret on the pages of many books - a description of 1 page. Only a genius can take a dry text - and turn it into an illusion. Magicians stopped looking for a philosophy in art. Jeff is one of the best things I've seen in magic. More Water by Harry Mendoza Perhaps someone remembers the exact issue of the magazine. It would be interesting to read this. Jonathan thank you for sharing the link!
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