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nick vassil
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Sometimes this seems to me to be like the Ambitious Card of coins. In my routine silver changes back and forth to copper about six times (3 time silver, 3 times copper) then ends with silver to jumbo. How about you?
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I think most spectators like a well-executed spellbound change. I use the move in conjunction with many others, but I have noticed a "spark" in their eyes when a spellbound goes really well. It's the fingertip aspect of it that sells the illusion.

Dan Watkins and Todd Diamond have some nice material using the spellbound to effect triple changes (Silver to copper to brass or gold) that end cleanly, which is a pretty cool adaptation in my opinion. I'm not sure how Dan does his, but it looks great. Todd and I are friends, so he clued me into his method, but before that... I had no idea how he did it either.

Spellbound changes, like anything else, are very deceptive when used properly and with the right frequency.

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I've been really working with spellbound lately. Incorporating both palming techniques, and sleeving. I've found that sleeving is another category/door. There are a lot more visual advancements and possibilities that I never thought possible, or would've even had the mind to think up. Very deceptive routine. Smile

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I have played with spellbound for years, and have worked out a few handlings. I started with a 3 way handling, then came up with A 5 way handling. Now I am working On a 10 way handling that I showed to the boys at the COINvention a year or so back! Hope to have it ready for F.F.F.F. this year! I have the 3 way and the 5 way handlings in print! Ok Latter Man!


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Yo David! Whatup?

Yeah...Neighbors did the 10 way for me when we were jammin' at the Coinvention. If you see him, make him do it for you...

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On 2005-03-10 05:56, Mike Wild wrote:

...Dan Watkins and Todd Diamond have some nice material using the spellbound to effect triple changes (Silver to copper to brass or gold) that end cleanly...
Mike


Hi Mike!

For the record, the triple change Spellbound goes back to Scotty York, in about 1975.
I have been doing a triple inspired by Scotty's work since then, but only recently published it in Channel One Magazine, after it was incorrectly written up by someone else without my permission (Al old student, but that's another story). Anything more than a triple starts to be problematic. It is hard to justify the changes in the story line, and without talk lines it looks like juggling, a magic puzzle. I'd love to discuss the Spellbound more, if people are interested. It has been a signature trick for me for over 25 years. I once did the trick and had to ditch the extra coin. My method fooled the magicians I was with and afterward they asked what happened to the gaff. I told them I pulled "a Malini...". Lots of other greaat experiences with this one trick...

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Is it true that the originator of "Spellbound" was our own Jonathan Townsend? I believe I heard that stated by Jay Sankey...

Am I mistaken...?

Doug
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On 2005-03-10 13:32, Dougini wrote:
Is it true that the originator of "Spellbound" was our own Jonathan Townsend? I believe I heard that stated by Jay Sankey...

Am I mistaken...?

Doug
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Yes, Jonathan Townsend has described it in *Stars of Magic* under the name of
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I may have a few coin changes in print, though make no claims on Spellbound itself, which was shown to me by Geoff Latta and then J. P. Laramee who pointed me to the book The Stars of Magic at Tannen's.

If my memory serves, the trick has its roots in a trick from Edward Victor's book, Magic of the Hands titled "The Changing Coin". Perhaps Wesley James or Paul Chosse might offer a more well read history of the trick if we ask.

About as far as I've gone in the basic premise has been to effect the change under misdirection as opposed to hand cover, using the EG2EG move you can find in Kainoa Harbottle's book Coins on Edge.
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Yes, the very first description in print might well have been in Edward Victors *Magic of the Hands* book which appeared around 1937.
I well recall it's in there, unfortunately I don't have my copy anymore.

*Stars of Magic*, in loose pamplet, form appeared around 1940 and got published with short intervalls of loose pamplets, so the title *Spellbound* no doubt first appeared there and might be Dai Vernons name for this routine, though it also might have been (that title) invented by George Starke and/or Dr. Jacob Daley, who wrote *Stars of Magic* in colaboration, IIRC, way back in the 1940's.

Maybe Paul Chosse can reveal more about this...
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Paul Sherman
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While we're talking about this routine, here's a question that's bugged me for ages:

Does anyone think the routine lost something when half-dollars went out of common circulation?

In reading Vernon's routine in Stars of Magic, part of the beauty of it seemed to be that the half-dollar was borrowed from the spectator at the begining of the routine. This eliminated the possiblity that the coin was somehow gimmicked, although one could argue that it pointed directly to the use of an extra coin. Still, I can't shake the feeling that there's something inherently more powerful about transmuting a spectator's property than there is about doing the same thing to a magician's "prop".

Anyways, does anyone else have any thoughts on this?

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Jonathan Townsend
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Was wondering if you give out some hats and talk about people seeing what they expect to see... get one person in a russian hat, another in an english hat have them pretend to be from those places, get them talking in accents... then borrow a quarter ... or is that too much work for a little coin trick?
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LOL I like the hat and accent bit.

As far as half dollars, one can do spellbound with quarters and half pennys or other size coins. It gets a little "tricky" with USA dime sized coins, but it can be done.

I plan on reading the Magic in the Hands book this weekend. I can't remember which one I have. (I believe there was two in the series???)

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Paul Sherman
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On 2005-03-10 15:17, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
... or is that too much work for a little coin trick?

...yes?

Maybe best to save that routine for when a Russian, an Englishman, and a Frenchman walk into a bar.

Does the Vatican have it's own currency? Might be handy to keep around in case the Pope is with them.

Stop me if you've heard this one...

In other news, how great would it be if Chinese coins actually looked like "Chinese coins". Carry around a C/S, borrow a Chinese coin from a tourist, and you can do an "impromptu" triple-change spellbound.

Paul


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On 2005-03-10 16:47, Harris wrote:
I plan on reading the Magic in the Hands book this weekend. I can't remember which one I have. (I believe there was two in the series???)

Pretty sure it was a trilogy.
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Bill Wells
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On 2005-03-10 12:46, Paul Chosse wrote:
I have been doing a triple inspired by Scotty's work since then, but only recently published it in Channel One Magazine, after it was incorrectly written up by someone else without my permission

Paul -

This may be showing my ignorance, but I am unfamiliar with "Channel One Magazine". Could you possibly tell me how one can subscribe or purchase a copy (the one with your routine)? Or is the routine available anyplace else?

Thanks - Bill


Posted: Mar 11, 2005 11:55am
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Paul -

Never mind...I goggled it. Gad...how could I have not heard of this magazine before? It looks great! I see that your routine was in issue 13. I will subscribe today.

Bill (living in isolation someplace)
Mike Wild
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Hi Mike! For the record, the triple change Spellbound goes back to Scotty York, in about 1975.

Hi Paul. I knew the triple change predated Dan and Todd, but I didn't know the Silver Fox came up with it. That actually shouldn't be a surprise considering some of the other amazing things Scotty has come up with.

Thanks for the enlightenment man.

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Dan Watkins
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My routine is a quadruple change spellbound.

The credits I have for my particular routine is:

• Original spellbound plot: Edward Victor: “The Changing Hands” Magic of the Hands (1946)
• Naming and defining the spellbound plot: Dai Vernon: Stars of Magic (Series 2, Number 3, 1961)
• Quadruple Color Change (non-Spellbound): Sol Stone, “Patriotic Poker Chips” Tarbell Volume 7 (1972).
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Spellbound is a great plot and Vernon's routine in Stars of Magic holds up just as well today as it did when it was published. The purse palm is a nice sleight, but it helps to have "meaty" fingers to avoid windows.
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In my new book I have an effect called "Lucky Chinese Coin" which is a routine where a Chinese coin (with a hole) changes to a gold dollar size coin and then a silver dollar and so forth. All the changes are fully integrated within the script. The sleights involved are original with the exception of a Spellbound move done once. When I was researching it, I found that the Spellbound move from "Stars of Magic" which is essentially a French Drop was described in "Magic Without Apparatus" p.292 under the title “Fourth Method.” The edition I have if from 1945 but I believe the book was originally published in 1914.
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As part of the "less is more" school, my only published handling of The Changing Coin uses just one coin.
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