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Kamini New user LA 30 Posts 
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If we could all travel 50 – 100 years into the future and read about the history of magic / mentalism who would we be reading about. The five categories are.
A. Financial Success B. Popularity for the public C. Creativity (For magicians / mentalist ) D. Performance Ability E. All of the above |
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salsa_dancer Inner circle 1935 Posts
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Derren Brown
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Don McCleod Veteran user Coulsdon 360 Posts
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Uri Geller
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Juan D Elite user 482 Posts
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Myself?
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freeflyphil New user phil 79 Posts
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I agree with Salsa Dancer, I would be very suprised if Derren Brown doesn't make it as big as the biggest names in magic.
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Scott Cram Inner circle 2678 Posts
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Magicians will still be talking about that TV special in 2047 where the secret behind the world's biggest mega-illusion was probably the world's most ingenious use of the TT ever!
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procyonrising Special user New York 698 Posts
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On 2005-03-22 00:15, freeflyphil wrote: If he fails to make it big here in the US, Brown will be nothing more than a footnote in magic history. If you want my vote, people will be talking about David Blaine. Sad, but probable. |
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts
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On 2005-03-22 01:40, procyonrising wrote: C'mon, we're talking upwards of 100 years!!! I'm sure the largest tomes will be on that so-called demi-god, James Song, and how he stormed the hypnosis community with a brand new way of thinking!! Or Wizardo. I'm not sure which. 
Greg
One of my favorite quotes: "A critic is a legless man who teaches running."
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salsa_dancer Inner circle 1935 Posts
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On 2005-03-22 01:40, procyonrising wrote: Oh yeah, how could we forget that the US holds the key to all future success. Every historical figure made it big in the US then? Derren Brown is already getting ingrained into the art and with his continued innovation he is bound to get a top place on the hall of fame. Besides, I thought we were talking about the magic fraternity, a place where you don't need to make it big in the public eye to be a figurehead. Before getting into this mentalism malarky I had never heard of Corinda, Kreskin, Chan Canasta, Dunninger or any of those people. Yet they are historical names. 'If he doesn't make it big in the US he will become a footnote in magic history' that has got to be the stupidest comment I have read today, and I read a lot on the internet. |
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Mesaboogie Special user 804 Posts
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Totally agree with you, Salsa.
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munger Loyal user austria 265 Posts
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Agree with slasa_dancer.
derren will do it and will be at madame tussot and I don´t mean london 
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tuffnavyrn Inner circle San Diego, CA 1238 Posts
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Jesus Christ............just a thought.
Brian-
"That smart thing that somebody else said". |
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oxygen Regular user Paris 186 Posts
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One more vote for Derren, especially after the release in the year 2097 of the book "Derren Brown: the secrets of a deception genius".
Maybe some will even say "ah Derren shows..., it was the good old time when all those mind electronic scanners where not selling for 5 bucks on e-bay" |
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procyonrising Special user New York 698 Posts
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On 2005-03-22 06:23, salsa_dancer wrote: While that is an unqualified assessment of my statement--hence, stupid in and of itself--I stand by what I've written. Corinda, Kreskin, Dunninger, Chan Canasta, and probably the many others you mention are not people we're talking about 100 years after they've made their mark. Kreskin, for instance, did much of what we talk about now in the 1970s. A century ago, we would've been talking about Washington Irving Bishop and Stuart Cumberland. However, do you know of Onofroff, or Capper, or Pikman, or Dalton, or Caselli? These were all expert performers of muscle reading, yet never did quite achieve the same level of success as Bishop or Cumberland... and these are the two people we most recognize today. I'll let you reason out why... Stupid indeed. |
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Juan D Elite user 482 Posts
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Just my personal thought :
I don't think it would be Derren Brown I mean, unless he publishes more (and I'm not talking about disclosing methods) I don't think his character will persevere as much into 100 years from now as the persons who write and publish today. It was the same with Annemann, Corinda and many more. Take for example Anna Evay Fay, she was amazing, famous, but what did she publish? And today who we remeber?, the ones who wrote their legacy and thus became "immortal". This has always happened in all areas of human knowledge : science, technology, social relations, even religion, etc. The ones that we speak about today, have been those who have put their thinking into words in their time. anyway, I'm not sure if I have properly put my thinking into the proper words ... I think I need to go out some more. |
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procyonrising Special user New York 698 Posts
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On 2005-03-22 03:09, Greg Arce wrote: That's hilarious. (Only because they'll say I learned everything from you.) Greg, I need your help with the re-write of TDM. We have five solid show ideas, but I need more. Like four or five more. Regardless, we've got to talk about it. |
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freeflyphil New user phil 79 Posts
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I would bet his methods will all be published by then. Some of them are already known. Lets not forget he put most of his card techniques in the Devils picturebook. No one performs forever.
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jimtron Inner circle 2039 Posts
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On 2005-03-22 07:32, tuffnavyrn wrote: Do you consider Jesus to be a mentalist/magician? |
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts
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On 2005-03-22 14:22, jimtron wrote: More Blaine-ish... he did the loaves & fishes which is basically a six card repeat, but he did revive a dead guy so that's like Blaines dead fly thing.
Greg
One of my favorite quotes: "A critic is a legless man who teaches running."
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David Eichler Grammar Host Durham, ME 1780 Posts
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On 2005-03-22 15:10, Greg Arce wrote: This thread continues to get funnier and funnier! |
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