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colibrimagic
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Posted: Apr 14, 2005 10:48 am
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JJDrew I just did that and It has already made things more clear in my mind good advice and I highly reccommend other people doing what he said:D.
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Ar_B
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Hong Kong
40 Posts
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Posted: Apr 15, 2005 11:35 am
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Quote: On 2005-04-12 10:22, kaytracy wrote:
Perception of who you are- at least when performing- was a question I asked myself many many times.
What I did was leave and return to magic, as I had a hard time ansering that question.
I finally asked- Why am I doing this. Why is it something others will want to see. It came down to presentation, and how entertaining it was, or was not, to the person I was performing for. Even the puzzle solvers would go along as I worked for them, and wait until after all wqas done before they tried to figure things out.
I am now at the stage where when with friends, or tryign something new, I do one and only one effect. I try out my presentation on them. I see what works, what needs to be dropped, and how I need to react and behave to get them to be entertained. That in turn determines who and how I am as a mage/performer.
Sometimes I alater the presentation to suit the group, so I have more than one script.
NOTICE: I have not said trick or patter in any of this, because that changes the perception YOU have of what you are doing.
I tell tales- based on a script that keeps getting tweaks until I am satisfied that I get the result I want from the audience.
I do not do tricks, I do impossible things- (read Alice in Wonderland- one should see at least one impossible thing each day)
I experience the wonder of what happens along with the people I am performing/experimenting with.
Sometimes- they are REQUIRED to participate for those things to occur.
yes, I think presentation is a important part.
For some simple tricks, if have good presentation, it would have good effect also.
All done by Presentation, Misdirection and Sleight~
We should concentrate on the effect.
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Salah AAZEDINE
Regular user
Morocco
177 Posts
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Posted: Jun 29, 2005 12:17 pm
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I think that the quick trick like coin vanich ,credit or business card vanich I mean all the trick that can be donne with everyday object gives you an image as a magicien if it's donne well.
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calexa
Inner circle
Germany
1635 Posts
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Posted: Jun 29, 2005 12:25 pm
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Quote: On 2005-03-27 12:55, rikbrooks wrote:
I believe that you are talking about routining and that depends on what sort of magic you are trying to perform. Forgive me but it doesn't sound like you are trying to perform stage magic. It sounds more like street magic. That you are trying to perform for strangers. If this is the case then there are several ways, but the main thing is, I believe, yourself.
If you do not view yourself as magical then neither will the spectators. If you see yourself as magical then you can have people gasping at an invisible deck.
It all starts with you. That's why I specialize in effects that aren't mainstream. I do the linking rings, several different sizes depending on my audience. I also perform cups and balls, chop cup, Dancing Cane, Zombie, and some ITR stuff. None of that is 'typical'. All of it, other than the ITR is classical magic, the kind that you would expect a magician to do.
Do what magician's do and you will feel like a magician. Act like a magician and you will be viewed as a magician. Convince yourself and you will convince others.
I started with cups and balls because Houdine said that any man that can't perform an adequate cups and balls can't call himself a magician. I took that to also mean that any man that could adequately perform cups and balls, can call himself a magician.
I remember the day that I 'became' a magician. My mentor, the late Fred Donaldson, was selling and teaching me one trick after another. He would sell me one and I'd practice it until he said that I had mastered it. Then he would sell me another.
I was performing for some people at work and I did Lite Flite. The people laughed and applauded. I rushed back to Fred to tell him. "That's it," he told me. "You just graduated. You got spontaneous laughter and spplause. You are a magician. You're a really BAD magician, but you have the rest of your life to become better."
From that moment on I was, and am, a magician.
A very important post!!!
Magixx
Optimists have more fun.....
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evolve629
Inner circle
A stack of
3838 Posts
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Posted: Jun 29, 2005 02:14 pm
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Quote: On 2005-06-29 08:25, calexa wrote:
Quote: On 2005-03-27 12:55, rikbrooks wrote:
I believe that you are talking about routining and that depends on what sort of magic you are trying to perform. Forgive me but it doesn't sound like you are trying to perform stage magic. It sounds more like street magic. That you are trying to perform for strangers. If this is the case then there are several ways, but the main thing is, I believe, yourself.
If you do not view yourself as magical then neither will the spectators. If you see yourself as magical then you can have people gasping at an invisible deck.
It all starts with you. That's why I specialize in effects that aren't mainstream. I do the linking rings, several different sizes depending on my audience. I also perform cups and balls, chop cup, Dancing Cane, Zombie, and some ITR stuff. None of that is 'typical'. All of it, other than the ITR is classical magic, the kind that you would expect a magician to do.
Do what magician's do and you will feel like a magician. Act like a magician and you will be viewed as a magician. Convince yourself and you will convince others.
I started with cups and balls because Houdine said that any man that can't perform an adequate cups and balls can't call himself a magician. I took that to also mean that any man that could adequately perform cups and balls, can call himself a magician.
I remember the day that I 'became' a magician. My mentor, the late Fred Donaldson, was selling and teaching me one trick after another. He would sell me one and I'd practice it until he said that I had mastered it. Then he would sell me another.
I was performing for some people at work and I did Lite Flite. The people laughed and applauded. I rushed back to Fred to tell him. "That's it," he told me. "You just graduated. You got spontaneous laughter and spplause. You are a magician. You're a really BAD magician, but you have the rest of your life to become better."
From that moment on I was, and am, a magician.
A very important post!!!
Magixx
A MUST read for all magicians. Bravo, rikbrooks, you can be my mentor anytime!
One hundred percent of the shots you don't take don't go in - Wayne Gretzky
My favorite part is putting the gaffs in the spectators hands...it gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside! - Bob Kohler
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rikbrooks
Inner circle
Olive Branch, Mississippi
1317 Posts
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Posted: Jun 29, 2005 04:59 pm
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Ouch, you guys are right. I'm usually not that verbose though
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Magnum
New user
89 Posts
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Posted: Jun 29, 2005 05:10 pm
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Flourishes do not a magician make, but I have found that they can make you more credible as a primary cardician. I don't go overboard, but there are several things that have become natural to me that look really cool to spectators.
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Roland Henning
Special user
Kiel, Germany
511 Posts
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Posted: Jun 29, 2005 06:20 pm
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Tell them!
'Hi I am the magician. I do this for a living. How about you?'
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