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MAGICTOM Veteran user Dallas, Tx 354 Posts |
I have been working with half dollars for about 2 years now, and have recently purchased a few Silver dollars...
So far, I have found only a couple of things that I can do with a half dollar, that I cannot do with a Silver dollar because of the size difference.. I was wondering if anyone has any tricks that can be performed with a Silver Dollar, which cannot be performed with a half? (I'm basically looking for something different to do with the Dollars I bought) any ideas? Tom
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
Bobo has a great coins-to-glass-in-pocket which requires silver dollars because of their additional mass. Be prepared to spend some money on tailoring, but the effect is incredible.
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Jason London Loyal user Napa Valley 207 Posts |
Hi Tom,
I'd like to make a suggestion if I may. What about a 3 Fly Routine? Or, Michael Ammars Coins through Silk? There's a ton of 3 Fly Routines in print and on video. Paul Wilson's Crowded Coins comes to mind. That's on the Knock 'Em Dead Video. Also, you can find Coins through Silk on Easy to Master Money Miracles, Vol 2, I believe.
Jason London
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David Neighbors V.I.P. 4910 Posts |
I used the coins to pocket from Bobo's. Killer!!!
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spherie New user Germany 52 Posts |
Jason is right, visual coins across routines can be performed with silver dollars twice as impressive as with half dollars. Simply, because the eyes register them more "prominently" than the halfs. By the way, what is the diameter of a silver dollar?
Spherie |
MAGICTOM Veteran user Dallas, Tx 354 Posts |
Exactly 1-1/2 inches..
Thanks for the replies everyone, I will have to search for a good 3-fly, for this is one effect I have not yet experienced.. I have heard a lot of talk about the 3-fly, but unfortunately have never seen one demo performance.. anyone know where this might be possible? thanks Tom
No Man is his craft's master the first day!
J.B. Bobo |
S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
There's a magician whose name escapes me at the moment who does a coins-across routine on stage using silver dollars. He has a custom-made shell (he sent a dozen silver dollars to Johnson and they made the shell from one) and uses a small bowl to catch the coins. On stage the large coins can be seen fairly well, but even the people in the back row can hear the coin drop into the bowl. It's an impressive routine.
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
Max Howard does an effect such as this.
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
That's the gentleman of whom I was thinking: Max Howard.
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qkeli Special user paris,france 792 Posts |
Chris Power has an incredible piece of magic with silver dollars, coins through silk, check it!!
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zeroG Regular user 183 Posts |
there is a coins thru table on Sankeys Revolutionary Coin Magic that is pretty cool.
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jerdunn Inner circle 1734 Posts |
Another trick with a silver dollar is in Sawa's book -- you split a silver dollar, which becomes two half dollars.
Other magicians also have developed this plot with various methods (Spellbound moves, etc.), but the Sawa routine, though challenging, is the best in my opinion. All you need is a silver dollar and two halves. Jerry |
Tim David Regular user MA 164 Posts |
Lots of great stuff on Sankey's revolutionary coin magic.
How about that bending coin? That would be hard to do with halves. I do an effect where two half dollars melt into one silver dollar (Paul Cummins also has a great method for this...very clean) and now for the kicker. I hand the silver $ to the spectator and ask them to hold it on their open palm. We're going to play a game. I challenge them to close their hand around the coin before I can snatch it out of their hand. Of course they can only move when they see my hand start to move towards the coin. The results? They close their hand around the coin before I can get to it. But when they open their hand, they now have a half dollar! I have the other half $ and the coin has been effectively split in the spectator's hand. Of course the silver $ is now gone. The patter is to the effect of: "Oh boy, it looks like you were too quick...I only got half the coin!" It plays very well (when I can get it right!) Best, |
ChessMess Veteran user 311 Posts |
The only silver doller trick I know, is the coin from card from Ammars Intro to Coin Magic. Always get a good reaction from that one.
Those dollars are down right heavy!! lol I have to admire you guys who can wield those monsters around as if they were quarters. hmmm, I'm thinking of the Roosevelt dollar... that is what everyone is refering to here, right? Not the Sacajawa (sp?) or Susan B's.. right? |
Tim David Regular user MA 164 Posts |
I use a walking liberty dollar...you know the "colorized" one?
Actually, I did buy one of those things...I'll tell ya, that's the most expensive dollar I own. I have a regular silver walking liberty as well and I worked out an effect using the paddle move (yes, for coins.) I show the Silver Dollar, switch it for the colored dollar (only colored on one side) using Sankey's Flying Shuttle Pass. Then I do the paddle move with the coin showing both sides silver again. With a wave of the hand (and a turning of the coin) the coin becomes "colorized" in red white and blue! You can also pass it out (if it wasn't the most expensive dollar I own, maybe I would!) I proceed to do a small one coin routine where it reappears behind the child's ear. They always ask to do it again, but this time, I reach behind the child's ear and produce...an EAR! Think of the pun possibilities... "Pretty eerie, huh?", "Why don't we play it by ear?", "Would you like your ear back (pause, then repeat directly into the fake ear) I SAID, WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR EAR BACK!" If you can find a fake ear I HIGHLY recommend this gag. It's great for kids and adults (the kid's expression is priceless) I was just thinking, you can do the above trick with a copper/silver coin too. P.S. Yes, I usually use Ike's. |
ChessMess Veteran user 311 Posts |
Thats great, there is a novelty shop just down the street... I'm picking up... 1 ear... lol |
Magicman01462 New user 60 Posts |
I personally do not like silver dollars, they are to bulky for my liking, and they are so uncommon, people think they are
"special" coins as I have had them refered to. Magicman01462 Oh and also, yes Bobbo's book has many good sleights with silver dollars, that's where I learned all of my coin work at first, good luck Magicman01462 |
TiendaMagia Regular user Spain 134 Posts |
Does anyone here acctually do that coin to glass in the pocket from bobo´s?
It is a great effect and the tailoring is not that much and besides I keep hopping to find new aplicattions for the utility. I think you can make a good change to the desing of the book.The main point in that utility is the height that you need for the coins to have inaff streght to travel to the side pocket.So instead of the tube going right down from the breast pocket what a friend of mine did is to take it directly to the side in diagonal so...gaining some height.
Cordially
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Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
As far as tricks that actually gain something from being done with dollars rather than halves, let's see...
Visibility is the main thing. I have fairly large hands and it's just plain unimpressive when I produce even a half dollar. It just looks small enough to hide. So if you've got bigger hands, then perhaps all your coin magic would look better with dollars. Muscle pass. Again, dependng on hand size, the muscle pass can be much easier with a larger coin. Backpalm. For many people, the full backpalm looks good with a dollar, and not good at all with a half. Certain Containers: The Silver dollar will wedge nicely in certain containers where other coins will not. Shot glasses come to mind, as well as those leather coin purses that you have to squeeze to get them to open. (See the Gaeton Bloom version of "ringflite" if you don't know what I'm talking about) With a dollar in one of these coinpurses, you can squeeze the purse open and thereby hold back the dollar in the purse while the smaller coins will fall out. Weight: Sometimes weight does matter. See Henry Hay's "Coins up the Sleeve" in "Amateur Magician's handbook". The coins have to make a nice loud clink when they arrive. Also, if you're sleeving or topiting a dollar, and it hits your sleeve or somesuch, it might just keep on going, where a half will change direction and fall on the floor. The Coin Star is easier, and looks better, with the larger coins. The "Karate coin" or "Finger Gimlet" looks better when the coin is larger. That's all I can think about right now. There might be more, but you'll eventually find your own reasons.
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