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Paddy
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In USA Today on Monday 25, Apr. in the State by State section was the following :
"Washington, Seattle - A federal Judge has ruled that the regulations the Seattle Centernhas set for street performers is unconstitutional. U.S. District Judge James Robart said rules requireing buskers to get permits, wear badges, stay in certain locations and refrain from asking for money violate their first amendment rights. Under such rules, Robart wrote, 'a latter-day Gene Kelly cannot sing in the rain.'"

We won another one!!

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That sounds like a wonderful win! Some places are VERY expensive to busk. Salem, MA in October charges $160 A DAY.
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You can read the whole article here
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But the real problem still remains.

There are only two seasons there; Winter and Rain, and neither lends its self to a busker making a living Smile

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It sure is nice to see us win a few now and again.

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On 2005-04-27 13:59, BroDavid wrote:
But the real problem still remains.

There are only two seasons there; Winter and Rain, and neither lends its self to a busker making a living Smile

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That is just an insensitive slander on the good city of Seattle.
We have a fine summer season here as well. I heard last years was particularly nice and would have liked to experienced it myself.
Unfortunately I overslept that morning and missed it.

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On 2005-04-27 16:44, MattTheKnife wrote:
It sure is nice to see us win a few now and again.

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Unfortunately it's not seen that way by many folk up here as they've been trying to get rid of this guy for years and years.
He's been kicked out of more venues due to complaints from vendors and patrons alike than most of us can count.
This is the second or third time he has brought a law suit against the city for trying to limit his access to his "favorite spots" as well.
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Aw come on. It only rained twice in Seattle last year. The first time was for 5 months and the 2nd time was for 7 months. I lived there for 7 years and really enjoyed that city. I'm just south of there now, but I still head up there every month. A traveling magician gathers no moss!!
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I grew up in a little town called Tenino south of Seattle. I loved visiting Seattle, Farmers Market is where I first started performing street magic, years ago. Mickey Hades was the first real magic shop I went to and as for western Washington...

if you don't do anything in the rain you don't do anything at all! I'm going back this summer to visit family and I can't wait, I haven't been home since 1991.

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Okay, I am not really sure that Seattle needs defending, but I will say this; having come 'home' after a career away (military), western Washington is still so beautiful it takes my breath away. As for the weather affecting buskers, you are welcome to come visit Pikes Place market and have Tom Frank knock your socks off.
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I would like to see Tom work. You have a lot of great magicians up there.
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PART 2

OK on Monday 2 May, the USA Today had this follow up re: Busking rules:

Washington: Seattle - The city must pay a street performer $20,000 (U.S.) to settle his claim over the Seattle Center rules which a federal judge recently said violated the First Amendment. The rules require buskers to get annual $5 permits, wear badges, and refrain from asking for money. Michael Berger, who has performed magic tricks and made balloon animals near the Space Needle or years sued the city.


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I have mixed feelings about this. From what I've heard, Berger isn't really the kind of busker you *want* in your city, but at the same time, the ruling is good for buskers in general. Or so it seems to me, at least.

I've been considering trying my hand at busking for a while, and have not had the time while working. Since I recently lost my job, I was thinking again about it, and then I found out about this ruling last Sunday, when the magic club met. This should make it easier to get started, right?

On that note, I do have a couple questions, some of which might be better asked of the Seattle Center management or someone with the city, but ... Now that this ruling has been made, does that mean that I can, right now, go in and start busking legally, or does the ruling not take effect for a little while? Also, at the end of the first article, it mentioned that the Seattle Center was going to see if they could "modify" what they have, or, if not, appeal the case. What do you think the chances are of them either coming up with a modification that pulls the teeth from the ruling or successfully appealing?

As I mentioned above, I'm interested in getting started, but I want to be legal about it. If there are still legal issues with busking at the Seattle Center, are there any other good spots in Washington for busking that don't require an application process? Ideally, there'd be something in the Tacoma area, but I haven't heard of busking down here, except during First Night and/or the Freedom Fair.
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What it means for buskers, is that you can now go out and do something which has always been 100% legal in every way for you to do before last week, but the city never intended for you to discover.

Have fun!

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On 2005-05-02 14:01, silverfire9 wrote:
On that note, I do have a couple questions, some of which might be better asked of the Seattle Center management or someone with the city, but ... Now that this ruling has been made, does that mean that I can, right now, go in and start busking legally, or does the ruling not take effect for a little while? Also, at the end of the first article, it mentioned that the Seattle Center was going to see if they could "modify" what they have, or, if not, appeal the case. What do you think the chances are of them either coming up with a modification that pulls the teeth from the ruling or successfully appealing?

As I mentioned above, I'm interested in getting started, but I want to be legal about it...


Silverfire, you can start NOW!!!, if the Center wants to modify or appeal the order they can, but the ruling stands as of this minute. I would start now, bring a copy of the Seattle paper that has the article so if they do hassle you, you can show them the reason you started. Remember the old busking adage "it is always easier to beg forgiveness than to ask permission!" The worst they can do is tell you to stop, then you ask wherre they would like you to perform or just go over to the Space Needle and try there.

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Well, as much as I'd like to start NOW, I'm still finishing up getting an act together. I saw the article and I recognized the opportunity, but I haven't quite gotten an act together yet. As soon as I do, I'll start. Smile

I've got the basic idea of the act, and some running gags/business has been revealed to me. I just need to get the rest of it together, then run through a couple times to make sure it all flows.
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