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Juble
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Just wondering whether anyone else uses this? It's a great way of subtly placing a key card next to a chosen card.
Christopher Williams
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Is this the move from Dai Vernon?
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Larry Davidson
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Please don't tell me that this is what Clarence Thomas is doing.
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On 2005-05-05 12:31, Larry Davidson wrote:
Please don't tell me that this is what Clarence Thomas is doing.


Thanks for the image Larry. Smile Gonna take a while to get that one out of my head.
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It is a Vernon thing. I've never used it. It's subtle, but it always struck me as a bit of an odd procedure. I've never liked justifying an odd procedure by giving a name to it. Others might disagree, but I just don't think "the ginsburg poke" becomes a less suspicious looking procedure just because you tell the spectator to give the deck "the ginsburg poke".

There might be some situations where it's the perfect key-card placement, but I'd imagine they're highly context specific.

But then again, I've never tried it in performance, it might work great and no one suspects a thing.

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Yes...you can muster up some interesting images with a name like the ginsberg poke! It was written up in Dai Vernon's Inner Card Trilogy. It is an unusual procedure and I think you're right Paul it doesn't become less suspicious just because you tell the spec to give the deck a gp. It's just something I add in now again for variety if only to see the reaction on peoples faces when I ask them to give it a poke...oo-er!
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Similar to the Scarne cut.

Al Smith had some good ideas based on this in print years ago. I even recall playing with the move myself.

Paul.
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On 2005-05-05 16:44, Paul wrote:
Similar to the Scarne cut.

Al Smith had some good ideas based on this in print years ago. I even recall playing with the move myself.

Paul.


You're absolutely right Paul, Al had an effect called 'Gambit', which is based on the Ginsberg poke. It comes from his booklet 'Cards on demand', which also describes this move. The move originally comes from Dai Vernons 'Inner secrets of card magic' by Lewis Ganson.
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While I like the concept of the move, I've never used it for the sole reason that I don't think my audience (or me, for that matter) know what the hell a 'ginsbury poke' is supposed to mean...

Some old people expression like shooting the breeze...? =)

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The move can be very useful, actually. I never call it by name in front of the audience, though, nor do I use it in the manner described in the Vernon book. I use it for a totally different effect in a routine I call "Ginsberg's Folly." Mark Leveridge has a similar routine on his Art of Table-hopping video--mine has a different (and IMO, better) climax.

Paul Harris' self-cutting deck is, in a way, the Ginsberg Poke in reverse!
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You guys might want to check out the "good" stuff, like the October 1991 APOCALYPSE issue, and more to the point (poke?), Hokus Pokus and Hokus Pokus Royal in PERSONAL COLLECTION. HARRY LORAYNE.
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