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I don't understand why people are willing to give this to you on a silver platter. I think that you should read mnemonica or Workers 5. If this inspires you then start doing memorized deck work. Otherwise it should be left to the dedicated. I'm not one of these elitists who thinks you shouldn't get any help. I would much rather see a post like " I'm thinking about learning a memorized stack, what books would you reccomend I look at to decide if this is worth my time".
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Noah, I'm sorry, but you ARE sounding like 'one of these elitists." I've been performing professionally for over 20 years, and I do over 200 shows each year, so don't treat me like a dilettante. And thank-you for your book recommendations.
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Imagine:

You hand a bunch of cards to each spectator up to maybe 10 people. They look at the cards and choose one, shuffle, a spectator collects the cards, shuffles and hand them back to you. You go though the deck reading the cards out 10 at a time, after each ten the spectaors who heard they're card named say, "i heard my card" you look back though the ten cards and name the card they were thinking of, this is repeated with all the spec's the last one is handed and envelope with a prediction inside, it's they're card.

Histed Heisted Aronson

What more could you want from a mentalist effect with cards,m and to top it all off this isn't even very hard to do.
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Acehigher, that's a very strong effect! Another good argument for studying Aronson's work! I am going to be very busy...
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My vote goes for The Mnemonica stack.
I personally like Mnemocosis.
Do yourself a favor and memorize either the Aronson Stack, or Tamariz stack, it will change the way you do magic.

believe me

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I can recommend Simon Aronsons new DVD full with effects with a memo stack:

http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?m......353423af
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Mats, thanks for renewing this thread. Ironically, I forgot all about my desire to memorize a deck this past year!
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Sure his new DVD is great! he teaches the basics of memorized deck
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Simon's Invisible Card handling with the mem deck (vs. his "take a card" version) is very impressive.

It can look exactly like the standard invisible deck effect and requires almost zero slight of hand.

I like it BETTER than the normal invisible deck routine because you get two effects. The thought of card vanishes from the pack and then it appears magically.

Youl could have the appear pretty much anyway you choose too. David Acer has a nice move called the Card Popout that could be used like this:

Have the named "invisible card" taken out of the pack and place face up on the table. Then show it has vanished from the pack.

Then visibly reach down and pick it off of the table, where it appears at yoru fingertips...
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Alain Nu's Any Card At Any Number effect, "Romeo & Juliette."
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Control in chaos (Mnemonica) is a Shufflebored version but includes the revelation of each cards face up, once the packets have been shuffled several times by spectators.

This only trick worth the effort of memorizing a deck.
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Darwin Ortiz has some very good work in Scams and Fantasies. One imparticular is Zen master. It really builds up into a three phase killer.
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Although it's difficult to offer an unbiased opinion given that I've created a number of memorized deck routines myself, 808 is my absolute favorite and one that I envision will always be part of my working repertoire.
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Larry

Where could we insights / buy the 808 trick ?

Can't find it on the Quicksearch option, and looking for 808+Davidson on Google I only can get the call center of Harley Davidson !
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The 808 trick is on his DVDs
http://www.theambitiouscard.com/mSearchR......ref=cafe

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If you combine a memorized stack with a marked deck you will have a super killer combination. This makes many effects easier to perform.
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Thanks Frank!

I agree with Mat Kjellstrom, and in fact 808 as well as a number of other effects on my DVDs use a deck that's both memorized and marked (and my deck is marked in an "unconventional" way that greatly speeds the process of finding any-named card in the face down deck).

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On 2006-06-11 09:27, Sybilmagic wrote:
Darwin Ortiz has some very good work in Scams and Fantasies. One imparticular is Zen master. It really builds up into a three phase killer.


I think yo can find 4 great memorized stacked effects in Scams and Fantasies with Cards. Last Laugh is one of my favourite quick effects yo can do with a memo stack.
This effects kills, especially if you can do a convincing false shuffle.
But its a rather hard routine to pull off smoothly...
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Old thread I know. I've been playing with 808. For anyone using it, try making the JH (or whatever card you use) end up BELOW the named card, rather than above it. It's smoother for me because you don't need to spread twice and when displaying the named card, rather than some additional handling to turn over the face down card, you just display the bottom card of the top packet.

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On 2006-06-12 17:14, Larry Davidson wrote:
Thanks Frank!

I agree with Mat Kjellstrom, and in fact 808 as well as a number of other effects on my DVDs use a deck that's both memorized and marked (and my deck is marked in an "unconventional" way that greatly speeds the process of finding any-named card in the face down deck).

Larry
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Wow, this thread takes me back, so here's my update:

I memorized Aronson's stack, performed Histed Heisted a few times (killer effect!), and then forgot the stack because I don't perform mentalism routines often enough. I have all of Aronson's books, and since much of it is not Aronson stack-dependent, I'm planning to learn Martin Joyal's stack (which relies on a set of rules rather than memory or mnemonics), and apply some of Aronson's material. This way if there's a long time between mem deck performances, I won't have to worry about forgetting the stack.
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