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enigmaticmagic
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I am looking to buy both of these products. but am not sure wich brand to get. so far I have been looking at joe porper clips? does anybody use these? hows the quality?. I heard that apallo close up mats are nice. what do you think about these? can sombody list what there using
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If you go through the myriad posts on the topic of clips, the bottom line is buy the Porper clip. My experience confirms this choice.

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I use magician's choice mats, they come in a wide asortmant of colors and sizes and I find the surface to be very nice to work with.
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Go to office depot and pick up one of those big mousepad things for like 10 bucks.
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Things like Card Clips and Mats are something you are going to use every day and for a long time, don't cut corners.

Get the porper clip, it is better in MANY ways over the generic.

For coin work or resturant, check out a Duffy pad, these are made from thick neoprene(wet suit) material, so anything spilt on them is easily washed off with water. Also as long as you don't put any creases in it(by putting somethng heavy on it for a long time), it will stay wrinkle free forever and be like new.

The duffy pad is really smooth and coins slid easily over it, but for some card moves you might find it doesn't have enough "grip".

The apollo and gibson pads are nice for card work, but the tops can wrinkle from being rolled and can get dirty, and are a bit hard to clean imho.


I think you should get a nice large duffy, and then a smaller apollo and decide for yourself, and you'll get 2 nice pads that will work in different conditions.
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Awsome. I will pick these up tommorow. I am deffinately getting the porper card clip. and I will bring some cards and coins and see if he will let me try out the close up mats.
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On 2005-05-21 19:39, Daegs wrote:
The apollo and gibson pads are nice for card work, but the tops can wrinkle from being rolled and can get dirty, and are a bit hard to clean imho.


Roll them so the top is outside and you won't have the wrinkle problem
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Guys what is this with the card clips, do you guys actually use these? and if so what for, I waste a deck per 2 weeks, but that is just by handling it, so what is this clip gonna do for me? This is a serious question, I really do not see the what this adds
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On 2005-05-21 21:50, Tabasco wrote:
Guys what is this with the card clips, do you guys actually use these? and if so what for, I waste a deck per 2 weeks, but that is just by handling it, so what is this clip gonna do for me? This is a serious question, I really do not see the what this adds

It appears that, for you, here's no advantage to a clip. I hang on to decks for a few weeks, and they're constantly going in-and-out of jacket pockets. No suit jackets, but outdoor jackets & heavier coats. My decks take a real beating without a clip, and the Porper is the consensus choice. The clip helps keep the cards from warping, because I'm in a pretty humid region, and it keeps the box looking newer.
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Why are they so expensive? It's just a piece of hard metal.
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Its more... there is a design and the porper has much better functuality than any other.

A card clip keeps the deck pressed flat when not in use, and even if you go through a deck every couple days, keeping it in the clip will keep it at a constistant quality the whole time.

I notice that cards coming out of the clip are much better quality than even new cards or just cards that have been out of the clip, I believe it is because of the pressure to keep it flat.
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I've always been a fan of the Zeus Close-Up mat... I've had mine for 10 years, and it's still going strong. You can fold it up, stack books on it, and come back a month later and it's just fine, no creases or anything.

However I don't know the company that makes them, or if they are even avalible anymore.
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If you have a few bucks, Dean Dill makes great close up mats. http://www.deandill.com
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On 2005-05-22 12:45, johnlamberti wrote:
If you have a few bucks, Dean Dill makes great close up mats. http://www.deandill.com

They are very nice, but with a 'few' bucks you won't get very far LOL
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For card clips there can be no better rthan the Porper whilst Trevor Duffy (South Africa) http://www.trevorduffy.co.za/frameset.htm makes some very nice close up mats out of divers wet-suit type material. The can be washed but above all, don't gather dust like most do.
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On 2005-05-21 19:26, Justin2200 wrote:
Go to office depot and pick up one of those big mousepad things for like 10 bucks.


These are great UNLESS you are doing the cups and balls. You can TOTALLY hear the inertia move on these things (the ball bounces up and down and these are harder than most closeup mats). However, I love mine for cards and coins and everything else that's not the cups and balls. (Plus, the balls love to roll around on these).

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On 2005-05-22 02:07, Justin2200 wrote:
Why are they so expensive? It's just a piece of hard metal.


They're not really THAT expensive. However, they are super high quality. I have dropped mine on a few occasions (and I mean on HARD surfaces) and upon picking it up, I discovered that it had not a scratch. Plus they keep the cards nice and tight, which is good if it's a hot day and your cards are in your pocket.
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Regarding card clips... I was surprised to see Michael Ammar use them, figuring he would use new decks all the time. Being frugal is a good thing even when you are one of the best.
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I couldn't afford to buy enough card clips for myself, cuz I usually have at least two, usually 3 decks on me Smile I should probably change that, but I really love my black tigers, just to sit around and flourish with, and I do magic with normal bikes.
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