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Devilix
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Hi guys,

I have been doing magic for about 1 year and a half and I really enjoy it. My main goal is just for fun. I usually perform for familly and friends.

Tonight, I did, for the second time, a show in front of people that I don't know. All when very well (except for a trick that the lady did not follow my instruction but oh well...)

I did receive a invitation for a future and bigger show.

There is my question. When I will do the big show, there is some effect that the lady who pay me (the one that enjoy my show tonight)will see for the second time. I do not have enought effect for a big crowd to always change my show. I know that you cant perform two times the same trick...but what do you think of this guys?

I know that she will maybee understand some parts of a effect or two because I cant change all. Its to much work (ex: a book test that I love to perform)

I would really like to know your opinion about this subject.

thanks all.

Devilix
Corey Harris
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It's not really performing the effect a second time. It is if you are repeating the effect for the same people after you just did it where the problem lies. I think you are ok on this. But I would also suggest learning a couple more effects that way you can rotate some of the effects in and out as you go on. I hope this helps.
Devilix
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Thanks Corey, I do appreciate your opinion and I must say that I think the same way that you.


I think you are also right about learning other tricks but I will tell you what is happening. I have always been the kind of "better perform to perfection 10 tricks that be able to do 100 not the right way". There is one reason that I don't do many effect yet.

The other one is that until now, I have done about 2-3 shows a year. So, every time that I perform in front of stranger, I go with my big guns. So, since I don't have 15 big guns for a big crowd, I must repeat some effect.

Any other idea about this subject?

thanks
Dave V
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I think you're fine. Unless, all of your tricks rely on a "surprise ending" of some type. Even then, if it's a classic (Chop Cup, Cups and Balls, etc...) they know it's coming and they look forward to it. In some way it makes them feel like they're "in the know" and they enjoy not only the tricks, but the effect on their friends who haven't seen it before.
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Hi,

Corey was right in stating that the "don't repeat an effect a second time" refers to the same table, same group of people,ect.. immediately after performing it the first time.If you're doing walkaround you'll find yourself repeating the same effects over and over..but NOT for the same people. :O) You probably know this but wanted to add that for others that read this forum for advice.

The woman that booked you obviously was impressed with your show and hired you for that reason. No need to change your act and sounds like you did a good job!In fact, as time goes on you'll probably find people have a favorite trick(s) they observed you doing and will request it. Each time you perform those same effects, your patter will flow smoother, your hands will become steadier and you'll become a better overall performer.

I agree with you Devilix, it's far better to know a few effects really well, than try to master far too many at one time and have more chance of being a luke warm performer. It sounds like you're doing well..so good luck with your show!
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It is still possible for you to do the same effect, but not have it look the same.

Change your usual patter/story that goes along with it. Maybe add in a new part. Take it in a slightly different direction, while still maintaining the effect.

Good luck!!
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You should do the same show. The more you do your show, the better you will become. Add improvements slowly so that you can measure how much of an improvement they are. The more comfortable that you become with your show, the more you will be able to focus on interacting with the audience. I am also a hobbiest, but do shows whenever I get the chance (probably about 10 a year). I find that time rehearsing my existing show and improving the look of my show (tables, signs, props, music) is well worth it.

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Mike
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Sounds like you are on the right track. Yes it is better to hone an act than to forever keep changing it. Often when I have to do a return performance I will switch out maybe two items but my mainstays are solid and I keep them in. Peoples memories are not that good especially over time so my strong tricks, though repeated, go over just as well and the risk of exposure are pretty minimal. (A lot more minimal than putting in a new, different and improperly rehearsed effect would be). Good luck to you.

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Devilix
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Thanks to all the people who took the time to answer this question. You know, I really appreciate to be a member of this forum when I read all the good suggestions that magicians take time to write.

I will stick with the same formula. I will change 1-2 things but it will be about the same. My main problem was with the book test. 2 times the same sentences...it seem weird. But like Mr Tougas wrote, people forget.

We have the proof with the TV show (masked magician). Everyone saw it, people remember 1 or maybe 2 explanations. They did forget the rest....

Thanks

Devilix
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Perform the trick...you're hired as an entertainer first and magic is your tool.
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