

martinkaplan Special user Los Angeles 562 Posts 
Does anyone currently use a magic square in their standup shows? If so, what is the ideal audience for such an effect? I do a business card version of the magic square, but I limit it to someone who is having a birthday. Thanks in advance for your input.
Marty 
Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5402 Posts 
I use a Magic Square bit in my standup mentalism act. I use a rather large unlined drawing pad and a black felt marker pen for visibility.
In the routine I have someone mentally pick a number, and then write it on a small square of paper, on which I had previously drawn, a mystical pentagram. The paper would then be torn up and burned. Then I would take the pad of paper and start to randomly write numbers down in a series of rows or columns until I had about 16 numbers written on the page (say four rows of four numbers). At that point I would let any spectator choose a row, column, or diagonal and add them up, they would equal the thought of number! Then I would demonstrate that adding in over a dozen different ways would add to that selected number (sign the sheet and give it as a souvenir!) This is only one presentation of several I do using the magic square.
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leondo Special user Las Vegas 759 Posts 
Martin,
The magic square is a powerful routine for any sized audience. Liz and I use it in our 2 person mentalism act mostly for audience's of about 150 people but we've even performed it to much larger crowds. From the audience's perspective: Liz is on stage standing next to a board with 16 squares on it. I go into the audience and have somebody silently select a 2 digit number and write it on the back of my buisness card, unseen by me or anybody else. Almost immediately, Liz rapidly fills all the squares with numbers. I ask the spec if any of the numbers in the squares are his number. He relunctly replys that his number is not present. I ask him for the first time to reveal his number. We look at his card as he tells the rest of the audience what his number is. His selected number is placed into a circle above the 16 squares.... you know the rest. You might check Larry Becker's stuff on magic squares. Also, you might be interested in this website: http://freespace.virgin.net/mark.farrar1/msfmsq01.htm Enjoy, Ted (Leondo) 
martinkaplan Special user Los Angeles 562 Posts 
Ted:
Thanks for the link and thanks for describing what sounds like a mindbending effect with a magic square. Marty 
Megatherion Regular user 146 Posts 
Hi,
The magic square is great for business shows. I wouldn't use it for a drunken audience. Yours faithfully :devilish: Dan 
Geoff Williams Special user St. Pete Beach, FL 617 Posts 
Paul Daniels has a very nice presentation of the Magic Square on a video (Stevens?). He performs it in front of a studio audience and keeps things moving along briskly. Comes across as a wonderful feat of mental calculation when he does it.
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Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6586 Posts 
Dexter's "Feature Magic for Mentalists" has a very informative section on the Magic Square for larger audiences.
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Hal Weaver New user 56 Posts 
Ted (Leondo
Nice Magic Square routine Ted. Hal 
Philemon Vanderbeck Inner circle Seattle, WA 4617 Posts 
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On 20020301 19:44, Megatherion wrote: Hey, if you do it for a drunken audience, you could put ANY numbers you wanted into the squares, and just TELL them that the columns and rows added up to the same number. They might just believe you. (Ever try to add stuff up when you were drunk?) "Let's see... three plus fourteen plus five plus nine equals thirty, AND six plus ten plus twelve plus one also equals thirty..." :devilish:
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Scott Wells Inner circle Houston, TX 1025 Posts 
I have been using the magic square in my parlour shows (15100 people) for about two years now. I perform Cardiographic earlier in my show then use the drawing pad again later for the Magic Square near the end and before my book test.
I recently bought Doug Dyment's "Mindsights" book which is very good. There is a method for repeating the magic squares with your business card (using the OTL principle) with multiple, apparently random, endings. Great for walkaround, cocktail parties and restaurant work where people might compare their cards. Also, he has some nice idea on forcing a lower number. Also let me throw in my appreciation to Ted for sharing his great performance idea. yours, Scott
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ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2406 Posts 
Thanks for the "Mindsights" plug!
Let me clarify the comment somewhat. The notion of using OTL with business cards is Roy Johnson's, not mine. The magic square described in "Mindsights" advances the technique in three very significant ways: (1) the resulting squares are more "magical" than the usual published solutions (adding to the chosen number in more than *two dozen* different and interesting ways), (2) the mathematics are a bit simpler, and (3) the effect can be repeated *almost three dozen* times for the same audience (even the same target number) with no apparent duplication (which makes it workable for walkaround, trade shows, etc.). All of which, as Richard Busch noted in a review, "takes this incantation into another league"! ... Doug
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