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daaaave
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Hi,

I recently bought an Australian 20c folding coin from Tango Magic which has an internal system for the elastic thread. It broke the other day and when trying to replace it, part of the broken thread got stuck inside the internal groove and now seems impossible to remove. Does anyone know of some way to get the thread out or is my folding coin unfixable?

Thanks

Dave
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Off the top of my head...

Canned air

A pin, bent appropriately to stab the elastic and remove it.

Very small tweezers

Call the manufacturer and ask what for the recommended fix... If it happened to you, chances are very good that it's happened before.

Best of luck,

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Sam Tabar
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Try using a needle or a safety pin to poke out the stuck elastic.
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daaaave
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Hey guys,

Thanks for those suggestions. I tried most of them but still had no luck getting it out so I'm just going to return it to the shop tomorrow hopefully.

Thanks

Dave

Update: June 27 2005

I returned it to the shop on the weekend and the owner, after 20 minutes, managed to remove 2 small pieces of elastic that were caught in the groove, so I guess I just gave up too early when trying it myself.

Thanks for all the help.

Dave
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Try some ooil and you will solve the problem after 1 h.
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Maybe put it in the microwave for a few seconds....
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Marcelo Insua
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Hello friends, I am the owner of Tango Magic and the inventor of the internal system for the folding coins.
We send a very fine wire with every folding, to clean the internal grooves when an elastic is inside.
When the elastic cuts, it is very important to take out it slowly with the wire, many magicians throw of one of their tips and it is as well as the elastic breaks and it is a piece inside.
I'm here to help you, sorry for my English, please write me in basic English.
Tim Ellis
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Hi daaaaaave, you were lucky!

I had a 20c folding coin and the same thing happened. The elastic broke and some of it stick inside the groove. I used the little wire they supply but it didn't get the elastic out.

In the end I sent it back to the magic shop.

That was ... hmmm MARCH last year.

On April 19 he emailed me - "Tim, I will be replacing it with a new one. Tango are proving very unreliable. I expect the folder in a week or so."


May 16 - "I got some single folders but they made them with obscure backed 20s, not the standard design I had asked for. Have mailed off some more coins this week."

Sep 3 - "Nope, They just informed me that yet again the coins I mailed have been lost (stolen). This has apparently happened to other stores as well. I sent a new lot on Friday by recorded delivery so I will have to hope that they arrive this time."

I'm still waiting!
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It may be a coincidence, but the magic shop I use in Spain has spoken to me in the past about Tango deliveries going missing in transit.
Tim Ellis
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Any comments Marcelo?
Aaron Moring
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Isn't the internal band idea in Bobo's? (Hint: the answer is yes, in the second trick coin section of the hardback book)
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I would appreciate some help on this please if anyone has one of these coins. I just bought one second hand. It arrived this morning and after one use broke. No instructions are included so if anyone has info onhow to change this I would appreciate it please. It works very differently to my old Peter Crush perfect folder.

Bri
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Panic over, I got it... There was a tiny piece of **** stuck in the edge.
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Can anyone compare a traditional folding coin to this internal system? Are there other folding halves and quarters made with the internal. I haven't been able to find any good reviews of reliability, function, invisibility of the seams, etc. Thanks!
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I'm thinkin'...maybe we put too much emphasis on these details. I've used a Johnson folding quarter and half since the 70's. Never been called on it. You can still get a Johnson for $12.50! The $30 Tango Coin has that internal system, which is good, but you see the problems...hey, it can get the same way with a Johnson!

After twenty years, the bands dried out. You would not believe the time I had cleaning those! The traditional Johnson is still great! I think Tango has kicked it up a notch with theirs. It's all a matter of taste. Today, I'd get the Tango in a heartbeat. Honestly though...it don't really matter...

Doug
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I had the same problem (something stuck inside one of the pieces of a Tango internal system folding coin). After trying just about everything else, I just held the piece in a pair of needlenose pliers over a gas flame for about 10 seconds. That did the trick - the wire provided with the coin for cleaning it shot right thru and pushed out the debris. There was no damage or discoloration of the coin piece at all. But, I was using a US 50c coin so not sure this would be the case with other coins that might be made of different metal.

I now have another problem though - the replacement elastic thread provided with the coin has aged and now snaps easily. Does anyone know where to get this type of thread? I've tried various craft/hobby shops without any luck.
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You can get it from any Murphy's Magic dealer . It's surprisingly cheap , and is very durable .

http://www.murphysmagic.com/product.aspx?id=54908
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Quote:
On May 18, 2016, Magician560 wrote:
You can get it from any Murphy's Magic dealer . It's surprisingly cheap , and is very durable .

http://www.murphysmagic.com/product.aspx?id=54908


Even cheaper:

http://www.joann.com/stretch-magic-5mm-b......473.html
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