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magicxman
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I wish to order some props "Cylinder,Silver Dollar and wand" to perform Cylinder and Coins.On Frank 's site he carry a cylinder with caps, is the caps useful for the routine ?
Frank now have new product "wands" They are made with Cocobolo or Canarywood. Very beautiful, but I found the wands without tips, anyone have ordered from him these wands please help me with some advise. Thank you
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I have Frank's Cocobolo wand. It's not designed to be a "wand" in the traditional sense, thus the lack of alternate color tips. It's designed more as a "thumper" for street work where a standard wand will fail in sort order. Even some of the finer quality wands are known to fail in that venue. I've seen pictures of a beautiful ironwood (?) wand that didn't last a day in the hands of a street worker. That doesn't reflect poorly on the maker, just that some things are more suited to certain uses than others.

You can get these as just a straight rod, or with a groove cut about 1" in to simulate the look of tips.
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If you want workable props, Frank is a good choice. If you want the finest quality props that are also works of art... Thomas Wayne seems to be offering the top notch in these props. It really comes down to what works for you. I'm still surprised when I see folks working on this trick. Have fun, and bring the magic to your audiences. There is a more mechanical approrach offerd by Joe Porper if you can afford it... over 1K. I guess the 00s are all about that Ramsay trick.
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Jonathan,

Is there any sleight of hand needed if using the mechanical Cylinder and Coins props offerd by Joe Porper ? Thanks
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I have nice wands that are 1/2 " in diameter.
they are not the "street thumpers" dave mentions and propbably more appropriate
than the larger diameter wands. they are great and made of exotic woods that I thought would look good.

I also have the cylinders with and without caps.

Some people buy the ones with caps for very specific purposes. Others buy them just because they like the idea of the caps, from ramsay's original routine.

I know a few that purchased the cyl. with caps so they could use it as a place to store dice for a dice routine when they were not using the cyl. for cyl. and coins.
You can easily do dice stacking with this cylinder using mini dice.

Good luck with your selection.
frank


p.s. magicforu, you do need to vanish a bunch of coins in a convincing manner.
That will always require slight of hand one way or another.
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Last I heard you need to manage the coins via sleight of hand with the Porper version. If you are comfortable using a pull and a coin clip you can get almost the same effect except all the coins vanish and appear at once instead of one at a time as in the Ramsay original. David Roth has an Edge Grip based handling of the routine that is VERY efficient.
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On 2005-06-25 21:41, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
I'm still surprised when I see folks working on this trick. Have fun, and bring the magic to your audiences.
Those who have seen f.ex Tim Conover do it (I know you have Jon) shouldn't be *that* surprised Smile
It's pure magic in the *right* hands, as it was -no doubt- when John Ramsay did it..
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Any video for teaching Cylinder and coins ? Thanks
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Any video for teaching Cylinder and coins ? Thanks


There are two well known videos that teach the routine.

Andrew Galloway teaches the thing on the first of his two video set. He also teaches the Ramsay cups routine among other items he learned from his teacher.

John Carney has a video which teaches the Cylinder routine as well as the "three coins in the hand" routine.
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The best:

http://carneymagic.com/books.htm

Galloway may put you to sleep. There are some nice items on the video though.

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On 2005-06-26 18:01, magichoka wrote:
Any video for teaching Cylinder and coins ? Thanks


The combo I learned from was:

Carneycopia (book)
Up close and far away (performance only video)

I had the book first and read the trick dozens of times.
And practiced the trick.

By the time I got the video, I was shocked how smooth
Carney trafficked the coins around. I didn't realize
how poorly I was doing it and how smooth it needed to be
in performance. Opened up a whole new world to me.

Wow. what a lesson that trick has been on so many levels.
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magicxman
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Frank,

Thank you for your information about your cylinder and wands.
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By the way, Jonathan Townsend didn't mention this but he has his own take on Ramsey's Cylinder and Coin in Apocalypse, July 1982. It's called Easy Ramsey. You can make your own props for this version.
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If money is not matter, you must buy from Thomas Wayne. He made wands,cylinder even the coins stack.
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On 2005-06-27 20:17, magicxman wrote:
Frank,

Thank you for your information about your cylinder and wands.


You're welcome. Good luck with the trick. It's great!
Todd Lassen has some interesting ideas regarding the stack on his website.
http://www.toddlassen.com/

check that out as well.
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