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Devious
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I own a table from Losander...in fact he flew into my town and personally delivered it.....It isn't a cheaply made item as you state.....in addition to the other gimmick it isn't a small magnet either, but I'll leave that to you to find out...The magnets affect the balance and aren't used for the secondary effect.

Yes, sure I could now have a local r/c airplane builder make me one, but I wouldn't dare cross that line. I enjoy performing this effect knowing full well that Dirk and his father crafted the one that I am using in my presentations, it adds a little something to it. This most likely wouldn't be the case in your mind, but for me it is an important factor.

I wish you well! If you are going to take the time to create the effect, why not float something different? Is there really a reason for you to create a table?
Why not a gumball machine, a book, a small airplane, car, computer, copy machine, rubber tire, barstool, etc....you get the picture?
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Yes thanks for keeping it a civil discussion and I take onboard your views.
I also take the point of floating something else but will have to think on that for a while.I like the table as it looks elegant and as you say crafted so making it float just looks good.
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Not to change the subject too much, but I was curious about where the effect of table floating came from. I understand it became very popular at the turn of the 20th century with the rise of spiritualism, but does it go back further than this?

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Richard
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Yes it does Richiardi!
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What's the earliest reference we can find? I don't mean just for the Zombie-style method, but to the effect itself. I think Sharpe wrote something on the history of floating effects. Does anyone know what he says?

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Richard
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Well, there are a lot of magicians here in our country who uses the Floating Table.
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Nathan, thanks for taking my simple question and turning it into no help at all for me. I don't think I'll be asking too many more questions on this forum.

Take care, Bry
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On 2005-07-05 17:50, bry1513 wrote:
Nathan, thanks for taking my simple question and turning it into no help at all for me. I don't think I'll be asking too many more questions on this forum.

Take care, Bry


I agree with you Bry. You shouldn't post many more questions on this forum regards stealing an effect from two of the great minds of magic. People who care about this art AND ethics are bound to call you on it.

Its nothing personal. If you conjure up some new method in magic yourself and marketed it....I'd be all over the person who posted asking how they could rip YOU off.

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Same old "ethics" argument. It boils down to the "big name magicians" can do whatever they want, but someone else does basically the same thing and they are accused of stealing or being unethical. So I guess I'm also not allowed to put together my own computer system or work on my own vehicle because I'm not the one who came up with any of it. I know what is being discussed here is a little different, but you get my point.

Oh yeah, the Zombie gimmick and variations, like the method used for Losander's Table, have been published. Therefore, you can use them. If you don't want someone using certain methods, then do not publish them. I know there are a lot of cheap looking imitations and people who think they can do a better job than they actually can, but if you can then why not? Who knows, you may stumble upon something new. Of course my opinion does not count because I'm not a "big time magician."
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Micheal,

You're right when you say. "Same old ethics arguement" I know better than to preach to a brick wall. I don't have to argue my point for ethics...your postings do that for me. You take the low road if it suits you and justify it any way you'd like.

Good Luck in your career and may you someday become a big time magician........who invents something.

Nathan
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Which table besides the Da Vinci one can float without a tablecloth?
entity
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The Owens table can float without a tablecloth. Also the Fransisco card table idea.
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There is one for sale on magicweek.co.uk
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Does anyone know anything about the floating table that Wellingotn Ent. offers other than what is on the website?
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