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Paul Jester
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Perhaps the muscle pass will one day be an olympic event?

http://channelwiz.com/wmv/gihou/g004.wmv

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Better to focus on application than distance in my opinion.
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The molecule pass can be done over 5 feet or depending the lenght of your arm span.
this was developed by the godfather of magic and has other uses ...sucj as the molecular vanish...


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I can attest to the strength of the Molecule pass . The Godfather showed it to me and I have been practicing.

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Enforcer by the time we meet again your molecule pass will be moving like a speeding bullet.

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In Japan they have like magic olympics which test things like the muscle pass. Shoot Ogawa's friend Yoko, I heard is like the best of the best at muscle passing.
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I think that video is from an event in Japan, which is like the Olympics of Magic. I think the guy in the video is officially the champion for the muscle pass in Japan. I think the bar was set at 50cm and he cleared it. In another video from the same site, I think he has the record for the coin roll which I think was 54ish in one minute. I remember it was over 50. The other events they have are estimation, card setting and close up magic.

And just something interesting I found on the same web site.

http://www.wizards-inn.com/w.emc/mmoc1.htm

Although it's all in Japanese down the bottom of the site there's an event written in English called "Finger Olympic 2001". So I guess they already have a Japanese version of the Olympics for the muscle pass and other techniques.

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Imagine how high it would go if he were taking steroids...
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I'm not discouraging anything, but if this goes on it might probably be leaving off the path of magic. Magic is not really about techniques, but of presentation skills and naturalness is it?
what's the use of doing Super high muscle passes and you already have enough height, and still having to outbeat someone esle you don't have to? That's not magic anymore I think if someone is going to compare sleights to this level.
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On 2005-07-10 15:49, mickey.w wrote:
I'm not discouraging anything, but if this goes on it might probably be leaving off the path of magic. Magic is not really about techniques, but of presentation skills and naturalness is it?
what's the use of doing Super high muscle passes and you already have enough height, and still having to outbeat someone esle you don't have to? That's not magic anymore I think if someone is going to compare sleights to this level.


Yeah, but having a super high muscle pass is still pretty cool.
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On 2005-07-10 15:49, mickey.w wrote:
I'm not discouraging anything, but if this goes on it might probably be leaving off the path of magic. Magic is not really about techniques, but of presentation skills and naturalness is it?

It is about techniques.
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what's the use of doing Super high muscle passes and you already have enough height, ...


It makes it more magicical.
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On 2005-07-10 18:47, Jordini wrote:...Yeah, but having a super high muscle pass is still pretty cool.


ONLY when you have a killer application that can't be done any other way, and you can do it under realistic conditions and FOOL people using it.
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Nah, I think he more meant that being able to muscle pass really high is pretty cool, and not even using it in a magic sense, but in a flourish/stunt sense. Which, to be honest, IS pretty impressive, like juggling. But I think making a coin appear out of nowhere to be more amazing than that.

When I use muscle pass, I often aim downwards, so I don't need that much strength, although it would be cool... more accurate, better angles.
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I find this to be very applicable b/c the muscle pass is a move based, in large part, on hand strength. Strength/distance/accuracy are an important part of good MP technique, just as speed is necessary for many passes.
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Similar to magius, I mean as in quite pointless to compete against each other for higher distances, when you are doing it for no reason but to outplay another person.

It's a good thing to do a very high muscle pass....don't get me wrong.....
but to practice and strain your effort for years just to beat another magician for 3 centimetres, when you can already do a decent height?

that's not magic. I would appreciate competition on presentation and naturnalness instead........you can have CRAPPY sleights and still go for an amazing act with presentation and naturalness.....
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Just thinking out loud here....

The advantage of a strong muscle pass is that one could always pass an object to a confederate standing several feet away and be utterly clean.

For example, whenever I am asked to do "a little something" I will ask to borrow a quarter. I place the quarter in my palm up right hand, close it and turn it palm down setting it for a muscle pass. At the same time, I look over to my left hand and turn it palm up. I claim that the coin will travel to my left hand from my right hand by magical means. At the moment I say "right hand" and look at it, my left hand turns palm down and closes while my right hand rotates back up. It is during this action that the pass is executed. It is slightly Ramseyish and partly Crossing the Gazish. Even if one burns the action, the move stands a good chance to pass. You could have your wrist held during this effect if you so desired.

So, anyways....

What if instead, you Super Muscle Passed the coin to a confederate instead of your receiving hand? You could show your receiving hand to be utterly clean. Then by having your confederate hold your receiving wrist (and delivering the coin via backclip) while a spec holds the other, you could effect a hands clean and far away from each other coin across.
One time, when I was young, I botched a sleight so bad, Vernon, Marlo & Miller rolled over in their graves. But I didn't see Elmsley, probably because he was behind the others.
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That approach, minus the conferate, also works using your case as a servante. Smile
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Or to a topit, etc.
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What if it was a signed coin?
One time, when I was young, I botched a sleight so bad, Vernon, Marlo & Miller rolled over in their graves. But I didn't see Elmsley, probably because he was behind the others.
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