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Ben Proudfoot
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Hello all,

I was studying a shift by Erdnase yesterday night and was trying to figure out what nationality "Erdnase" was. Maybe Scandinavian I thought. On closer examination of the name, S. W. Erdnase is E. S. Andrews backwards! Has this been found out before? Coincidence or Sobriquet?

Who knows...

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This has been found out before, many times..
The effect is the important thing, how you achieve it is not.......
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Acutually his real name is Milton Franklin Andrews I belevie. This book may be of interst to you. http://www.illusionstore.com/product_inf......c35b388b
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On 2005-07-15 09:21, bproud wrote:
Hello all,

...On closer examination of the name, S. W. Erdnase is E. S. Andrews backwards! Has this been found out before? Coincidence or Sobriquet?

Ben


I will have to interrupt my research on the identity of Erdnase to uncover the definition of "sobriquet." So much to learn in this forum....
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Wow - that looks like a great book. It felt like uncovering a conspiracy when it dawned on me - Oh well.

Thanks,

Ben

PS - Sobriquet is nick name.

PPS - Cool thing about the origin of nick name: first started as "an eek name". Like "eek out a living". Slowly, it turned into "A nick name". Cool eh?
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On 2005-07-15 09:29, Chris Bristow wrote:
Acutually his real name is Milton Franklin Andrews I belevie. This book may be of interst to you. http://www.illusionstore.com/product_inf......c35b388b


I'm no expert on the matter but was under the impression that Milton Franklin Andrews is now widely refuted as the alter ego of Erdnase. I'm not saying your wrong Chris but I certainly have heard/read several times now of magic historians disregarding Milton Franklin Andrews as a possibility in regards to the real identity of Erdnase.

Anyone (preferably someone who knows more than I do, which is, in fact, just about anyone) care to expand on this?

Dave.
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You folks may be interested in this huge thread over at Genii about Erdnase:

http://geniimagazine.com/forum/cgi-bin/u......7#000000

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On 2005-07-15 09:21, bproud wrote:...S. W. Erdnase is E. S. Andrews backwards! Has this been found out before? ...


Folks have been looking for a gambler named Andrews for over fifty years, including Vernon.
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That's so cool. I missing link in the world of magic...

Ben
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Erdnase can be translated from German into a nonsense phrase, "earth nose".

I doubt it means anything, since it's generally been accepted as to how the author arrived at the name - the reverse spelling thing. By generally I mean by a bunch of obsessive magicians...
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Check out the thread JimMaloney posted on the Genii forums, it's a GREAT read. If it was only available as a manuscript, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
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On closer examination of the name, S. W. Erdnase is E. S. Andrews backwards!
Ben


...his real name was javier lippshittz...
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I beg to Differ,,,,,,,, his real name was
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Yeah. E.S.Andrews was his real name.
I forget what E.S was for though
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On 2005-07-15 14:29, mc_magi wrote:
Yeah. E.S.Andrews was his real name.
I forget what E.S was for though


Glad that's settled.
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According to Allen Kennedy, Dai Vernon was Erdnase's nephew.
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...his real name was javier lippshittz...


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On 2005-07-15 09:29, Chris Bristow wrote:
Acutually his real name is Milton Franklin Andrews I belevie. This book may be of interst to you. http://www.illusionstore.com/product_inf......c35b388b


I'm no expert on the matter but was under the impression that Milton Franklin Andrews is now widely refuted as the alter ego of Erdnase. I'm not saying your wrong Chris but I certainly have heard/read several times now of magic historians disregarding Milton Franklin Andrews as a possibility in regards to the real identity of Erdnase.

Anyone (preferably someone who knows more than I do, which is, in fact, just about anyone) care to expand on this?

Dave.


You are probaly right. This is what a friend told me so I just went with that.
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There is ongoing research and discussion, pages of it, on the genii magazine forum. So far, nobody has found the original or drafts of the book, layouts or canceled checks or receipts for the book - work that tie it to a person as author. For all we truly know, the book may have been written as a conjuring book with a gambling section at the back, or as two books, then a good editor may have taken the sections, reversed them and written a new introduction. For all we know a temperance leader may have gleaned the information from recovering gamblers and some conjurers and written the book. Perhaps there was someone named Andrews involved in the book. The search goes on.
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