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spiritx2005 New user 40 Posts |
I'm sure this has been asked before but nothing much came up when I searched for it so here it is, apologies if this is a frequent question.
In your opinion what is the single most useful book for card magic, and please include the author if you know. I only have a few months experience at the moment but the book I've got the most mileage out of so far is the Encyclopaedia of Card Tricks by Jean Hugard.
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will
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KidCrenshaw Special user USA 537 Posts |
I would venture a guess to say Royal Road To Card Magic by Hugard, and Braue.
Very thorough, and has proven to be a reference guide. Maybe Roberto Giobbi's Card College series if you count a set of books.
"Put your faith in Providence, but always cut the cards"
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John Jorgensen New user 67 Posts |
It all depends on your experience level. For example, I get a lot more mileage out of the Art of Astonishment(Paul Harris) series then I do out of the Card College(Roberto Giobbi) series. However, I bought the Card College series as a reference guide. Just about every "move" that I do with cards is in Card College but for the most part that isn't where I learned the "move".
So answering your question isn't as easy as it would seem. If you want to know what book/series we use effects from the most then that's one thing. If you want to know which book taught us the most technically, then that's another. If you want to know which book helped us on our insight of magic performances, that's still another one altogether. I'm sorry for being difficult but I always think everythings a trick. John
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spiritx2005 New user 40 Posts |
Yeah, that's a good point John.
Really I'm just interested in what people consider to be the most useful tool in the area. I want you to answer the question you pose yourself. For instance, if you could only have one, would it be AoA or Card College? Do any of them cover all the areas you mention?
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will
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John Jorgensen New user 67 Posts |
If I could only have one then it would have to be Strong Magic by Darwin Ortiz. Unfortunately I'm not going to learn any effects or handling. When it comes to showmanship though, watch out.
John
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Expert Card Technique is one book that covers a lot, if you find a list of contents for it on the net you will see, and it's only $10.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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KidCrenshaw Special user USA 537 Posts |
The question is simple, what book do you find most usefull?
Answer it honestly. Not for one reason or another, just usefull period. For me, it's Royal Road. For the money, and size, it packs a punch. Passes, doubles, shuffles, cuts, tricks, and a bit of theory. Good stuff.
"Put your faith in Providence, but always cut the cards"
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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
It is much important to read many good books to become a good cardician. Read Erdnase, Jordan, Hugard, Vernon, Marlo, Fulves, Longe, Elmsley, Walton, Elmsley,,, and other 100 authors.
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qwism New user 76 Posts |
If you were to go for one book...Stars of Magic would be my recommendation. Mark Wilsons Book on Magic also.
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Christopher Williams Inner circle Portsmouth, UK 4464 Posts |
Though you are all saying good book, you aren't actualy answering the question. The initial question was which 'single' book is most useful. So if you are saying AOA or Card College, which is the 'single' useful book out of the series. AOA vol.1?2?3?Card College 1?2?3?4?5? For me it is The Royal Road as it is a classic and teache all the moves neccessary to become a top class magician and provides tricks as well as the moves. Im not saying it is my favourite as I love all my magic books, but as for useful, I would say RRTCM. Many books like AOA and Card College do teach great stuff, but some of it you might not find useful
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camador Regular user Salamanca 170 Posts |
I would go with Hideo´s recomendation although if you are new to card magic or lower-intermediate, the most useful book in my opinion would be Card College series by Roberto Giobbi. Many techniques very well explained with added little touches from different authors,with some of the explanations being the best I´ve read. This series will allow you to become familiar with 95 % of the useful card magic. However, once you have certain card knowledge going back to the classics is wonderful because you´ll see original versions of the most famous plots and techniques, which some times are superior to the new versions due to their simplicity and you´ll be able to check what small details have been omitted in recent texts (the expert at the card table by Erdnase, The Classic Magic of Larry Jennings, Everything by Vernon, Marlo, Elmsley...
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taller8 Inner circle Olympia, Washington 1087 Posts |
Card College Vol One was the first book that I actually understood. The writing is clear and consice, and the advice is great. Highly recommended.
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Adam J New user 87 Posts |
There are many, but for me, I take Card College. It has almost every move in card magic (I know it's a stretch ) and they're all very well explained. It was the first cardc magic book I ever owned (volume 1), but definitly not the last. I borrowed RRTCM from a friend, but it wasn't as good. I have a copy of Expert At The Card Table, but I haven't bothered to read it yet! *laugh*
I suggest picking up Volume 1 of Card College if you're interested in anything about Card Magic. |
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T. Joseph O'Malley Inner circle Canada 1937 Posts |
How about a book on theatre: ie blocking, presentation, motivation etc?
tjo'
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Reis O'Brien Inner circle Seattle, WA 2467 Posts |
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On 2005-07-23 09:51, qwism wrote: Ah... good... thanks for narrowing it down to one.... ;) |
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Rennie Inner circle I think I have about 1826 Posts |
I would go with sublety as opposed to sleight of hand, I have been getting the most from the following 2 books,
1 - The Card Magic of Nick Trost 2 - Effortless Card Magic - Peter Duffie One effect alone in Effortless Card Magic is as follows; Remove a deck of playing cards from your pocket, have a spectator think of any card (no force & no naming of the card )have spectator take the cards out of the case and tell him his card will be "gone" from the deck, he counts down to 51 cards and his card is truly "gone". This is all accomplished with no sleights and literally "self working" Rennie
The effect is the important thing, how you achieve it is not.......
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Richard Shippy Special user Scottsdale, Arizona 510 Posts |
All Five Volumes of Card College!
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." ~ Winston Churchill
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scorch Inner circle 1480 Posts |
For the best all-around source that has a good balance of everything relevant to card magic (repertoire/effects, theory, philosophy, showmanship, sleights, a good balance of information for beginner, intermediate, and advanced card workers, including even such subjects as care of the hands & skin, etc.), I don't think there's anything that can hold a candle to Card College.
Of course, part of this issue depends on your intent. If by "useful" you mean building skills, then by all accounts Card College is the best. If you want to build repertoire, then I would probably say AoA, although there are many great books on that subject. If you want to learn theory, again the nod goes to Card College (volumes 2 and 3 especially), but Ascanio's Structural Conception of Magic is also first-rate. If you want to enter the wonderful world of memorized deck systems, I would say Tamariz's Mnemonica would be the most "useful." |
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
Erdnase - Expert at the card table would be the single book on card magic that would get my vote. The reason is that there is so much good stuff in that book for such a low price.
It makes a great foundation for most modern card books, video's DVD's etc. Most of but I think all the great card magicians of the past have read and studied Erdnase. I feel it is the most important work on card magic that has ever been done!
Glenn Bishop Cardician
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
You need to say what type of magic you want to do. If your looking for pure impact then Erdnase may not be the best. If your looking for a foundation of fundimentals and such then it is great along with Royal Road.
Seraph is right, the question is definatly problomatic to say the least.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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