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love2laugh Veteran user 374 Posts |
I've been working on the muscle pass and just this morning my hand started to bleed. Is this normal? I think I must be practicing too much.
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Dan Watkins Inner circle PA 3028 Posts |
You can practice too much and have this happen. The coin rubs your skin raw. Just take it a bit easy, you will develop a callus soon that will be able to take the punishment easier.
Once you learn it however, then you won't really have much problem because you don't really do it as much as you do when you are trying to learn. |
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Corey Harris Inner circle Kansas City, MO 1229 Posts |
I didn't have that problem when learning the muscle pass. My issue was with bruising. Heck I can still only get a good muscle pass once in a while.
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IanKendall Special user Edinburgh 571 Posts |
When I was learning I spent about four hours a day for three or four months before I showed anyone. There were a couple of bleeding moments in the beginning, but as Dan said, once the callous forms it's much easier.
Take care, Ian |
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Dan LeFay Inner circle Holland 1371 Posts |
And remember: Every good coinman has callus on his knees!
"Things need not have happened to be true.
Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths, that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot." Neil Gaiman |
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Alym Amlani Inner circle Canada 1464 Posts |
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On 2005-07-31 05:07, Dan LeFay wrote: ...So do interns... (I had to)
Logic Defied
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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts |
Remember you always have a choice Alym, whatever you did while an intern, you didn't "Have to", you chose to.
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Charlie Justice Inner circle Mount Dora, Florida 1142 Posts |
My friends and family thought I was out of my mind when they saw that I had broken skin and started to bleed from practicing what they could not see as a worthy endevour.
I practiced constantly, healing only at night, but it most certainly has paid off. |
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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
If practicing the MP causes bleeding, you haven't found the right sweet spot in your hand for your coin. This will also be a function of the coin size and thickness as well as your own unique hand anatomy. I do a MP from a modified thumbpalm grip as well as the standard way. I have no calluses or abrasions. Stop practicing when the skin becomes sore. Perhaps someone will come out with a teflon coated practice coin impregnated with Vitamin E and Aloe Vera.
Bob Kohler: If you market this I expect 10% of the gross. Quote: On 2005-07-31 05:07, Dan LeFay wrote: |
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jolyonjenkins Inner circle United Kingdom 1181 Posts |
Another MP question:
I can now get the coin (a very worn and thin old English penny) to go a few inches sideways, but I can't see how to get it to go upwards. I would have to twist my hand and arm further than they want to go in order to get the muscles pointing upwards. Is there something else I should know?
Jolyon Jenkins
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Charlie Justice Inner circle Mount Dora, Florida 1142 Posts |
With practice you will begin to develop more strength. Right now the 'strength' that you have is not overcoming the direction of the propulsion thus making it go sideways. As soon as you get more downward pressure before the release you'll notice it straightening out more and more.
Think of a MP as a bounce without the drop. For example, when you drop a ball it does in fact come to a complete standstill motionless stop, albeit for a millisecond, before it 'bounces' up. The MP creates the energy for the bounce without a drop causing it to propel up. Also, try timing the release with a synchronized complete opening of your hand. The springing-opening of your palm proper may aid in clearly directing the coins direction. I am fully aware that none of this may make a stitch of sense to many as I admit a lack of ability to describe many of the details of the MP in type. Please forgive my possibly inadequate descriptions. |
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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
The contraction of the muscles in the hand (thenar and hypothenar muscles) has to be done very fast for the coin to be propelled. Try using a plastic poker chip. That should give you a chance to make the coin go up.
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Richard Shippy Special user Scottsdale, Arizona 510 Posts |
Bleeding is not good in my opinion yet bruising is probably normal.
Let your hands rest for a bit and you'll be o.k. The muscle pass is a great slight yet a bit painful to learn. Take care, Rich
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." ~ Winston Churchill
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Christopher Williams Inner circle Portsmouth, UK 4464 Posts |
You havent yet found the right spot then. As for the Penny, that just takes practice. I can muscle pass very well in both upwards and sideways directions. The hard part you will find with the old penny is that it doesn't have milled edges which help with the friction to cause pressure, it will just slide. And bleeding is very bad. The skin is thick, that must have taken some doing. And I don't have a callus either, yet an still mp far, fast and hard. Its a knack
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Shalin New user 91 Posts |
I was practicing my muscle pass and I never had any bleeding occur. I just had lots of bruises on my palms. If you are bleeding from it, I think that you are practicing too much. Just practice for a while, take a break for an hour, and come back to it.
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Back in the 70's I recall that I developed a sleight callous.
1x1 coaching can help. Harris
Harris Deutsch aka dr laugh
drlaugh4u@gmail.com music, magic and marvelous toys http://magician.org/member/drlaugh4u |
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Steranko New user UK 89 Posts |
I found practising a side to side action at first required less pressure and therefore I was quite quick to build up my callous. If your trying to do it upward and its going no where, then it gets frustrating and you push too hard, cutting your hand as you have.
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Magic333 New user 62 Posts |
Is a callous worth it? As magicians, we need to keep our hands looking clean. Nails cut, no open sores. An unsightly callous on you palm would make me not want to watch coin or card manipulation. Forget about a bleeding sore. Only thing worse is the nicotine stained fingers.
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Richard Shippy Special user Scottsdale, Arizona 510 Posts |
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On 2005-08-04 15:22, Magic333 wrote: The muscle pass is a beautiful slight! I'd say a callous is totally worth it. However, I wouldn't want my hands to bleed every time I performed the muscle pass. I think spectators would get turned off by blood gushing out of the palm.
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." ~ Winston Churchill
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mickey.w Veteran user HK 313 Posts |
Oh no...another victim.
Let me share my little story: back in the old days, I once get to witness a friend bleed while MP right in front of my eyes...shouting and rushing into the toilet.......and imagine that being the period I was just trying to learn one. Till today, I still can't do a muscle pass. Whenever I try to do one once in a while, the image just pops up and my hand muscles just drops dead. |
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