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Magic333
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I was wondering what are some thoughts about the okito box looking too much like a prop? This box is akin to a pill box. However, many young adults think it is a magic gaffed box and many suspect the box does all the work. I personally enjoy using the box, although the suspicion keeps me using the regular box as compared to the boston, etc.
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Depends on what you carry in the box.

like the cups for cups and balls, if you can USE them, they are accepted.
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The box does look like a prop. It smacks of the plastic shell props everyone finds in the "101 Magic Ticks" box o' tricks you had as a kid. It is something the audience desires to inspect to ease the doubting voice in their head.

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I use both. I start my routine with the okito box and then swap it out for the final sequence which is four coins through the hand. I let the specs examine the box at the start of the routine. I start it out with, "Would you look at this? Isn't this just the cutest thing in the world?"
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It came from the real world! Okito found A pill box His Parter Keep his pills in!
And found that the top also fit on the botton! And then he showed it to him makeing
The pills vanish From the box A fooled him! Smile! When I do it for layman I keep some cotton in it And Say "it was A pill box Given to me By my great grandad! Back then they made stuff that lasts!!! "


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David, you use a cardboard pill/powder tube from the 1940s? Cool!
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Ha-Ha!:)! That My patter Line! But It's Based on A Real would Story!!!


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The O Box also looks like a logical container for radioactive substances, especially the really thick models. So perhaps you've got change from the pocket of one of the original US nuclear test subjects, or an engineer from Three Mile Island. You keep the coins in a metal box to protect future generations of, well, you. But you take the coins out from time to time to experiment with their odd properties, or when you need a nightlight, or want to defrost a microwave dinner.
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Curtis, don't be holding back on your rainbow silk streamer idea. Smile
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In all honesty - I love the prop and would love to use it but yes it will get called... so the effect must be killer...
catch you later

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Larry, the rainbow silk streamer idea is never to be spoken of. In fact, in order to protect the idea, I have forgotten it myself, as I cannot be trusted. In short, HuH? Smile
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In David Roth's Expert Coin Magic it states that David calls it(Okito box) a magic box,and then proves it.Does it really matter?The audience can inspect it after and before the routine,so I don't see any problem.
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Do you think that it might be possible that even after an audience examines the box, that they may merely think that they were unable to find the trick, as opposed to thinking that it is a completely normal cylindrical brass box with a lid?

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On 2005-08-05 21:55, Curtis Kam wrote:
Larry, the rainbow silk streamer idea is never to be spoken of. In fact, in order to protect the idea, I have forgotten it myself, as I cannot be trusted. In short, HuH? Smile


Curtis, Curtis, Curtis, I'm deeply saddened to learn of this age-related memory loss. I'm talking about myself! It turns out that it was Mike Powers' idea which he posted here. I absolutely love the idea as it makes the very existence of the box both "logical" and magical.

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On 2005-08-05 11:05, Magic333 wrote:
I was wondering what are some thoughts about the okito box looking too much like a prop? This box is akin to a pill box. However, many young adults think it is a magic gaffed box and many suspect the box does all the work. I personally enjoy using the box, although the suspicion keeps me using the regular box as compared to the boston, etc.

Yes it smacks of “prop”, so what.

If your routine ends with (or starts) with an examination of the box, it makes no difference.

Bob
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As someone who uses the Okito box in walk around situations lets clearify one thing. Any thing you pull out of your pocket that is not a coin or a pen or paper or wallet or money is going to be considered suspicious. Normal people (and I mean that in the nicest of terms, those who are not magicians) don't carry cards with them everywhere they go either. So for someone to pull out a deck of cards out at a restaurant is a bit strange as well. If you have a logical reason or explanation for something than it becomes semi-normal.
I still like Chad Longs comments about the box. He would pull it out and lay it on the table then say... "This box holds rare and valuable coins." "I don't have any of those so I keep half dollars in it!"...
I love the Okito box and most of the people that I perform it for don't aplaud the box they are still applaudding me after I am done.

Just my 2 pennies worth. Remember it is just a box to carry your coins in. Don't get so annalitical(sp)

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When the okito box aparently passes through your hands, or the coins pass through your hands and the box is suddenly empty... that's magic. No one will credit the prop if you've created the magic. IMHO. Also, one of my favorite aspects of the okito box is it's utter simplicity and examinability. I think that adds to the mystery.

I once used patter similar patter to Curtis... I explained that the box was made from an exotic metal used in the space program called "Yittrium Alloy". I snuck this small box out of the magnetics lab at bell labs. Let me show you it's weired anti-matter properties.... etc.
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It is one of those little odd props you can actually call what it is, a coin box. People seem to forgive magicians as being eccentric and having things that are kind of special. Call it a Chinese coin box or a collector display coin box. It implies they could have one too if they had an interest. I wouldn't call it a pill box since those have gone out of vogue and besides the lid does not fit snug enough to keep your pills from rolling all about.

I think if you bring your coins out in one to begin with and do other types of coin magic before bringing the box back into the magic, it seems more believeable than to take the coins from a purse, do some routines and then bring out the coin box and use it.

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I know one guy who when he brings out a box patters about how a hundred years ago they made pill boxes out of all sorts of things - ivory, tortoiseshell, alabaster, etc. And that he recently found this old pill box made out of brass in an antique shop. I don't know if anyone buys that but that's his line (justification) for introducing a coin box. He tells me no layman has ever challenged him on it.
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How much explaination do you need? I've used fancy explainations in the past, such as my yittrium box from the aerospace plant, but I usually introduce it as a "simple box", let the spectator take a good look at it, then let the games begin!
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