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Chance Wolf
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Hello,
Before I go on an extensive internet search, does anybody have any links to purchasing Ball Shells? I have no need for the sets of balls. Maybe something already pre-fab'd that can be used as a shell?
1 1/2" - 2" preferred.
I am looking to buy quite a few of them for an upcoming project.
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Chance,
If paper (cardboard) shells would suffice try here: http://www.cannonfuse.com/scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=89

Or give Frank Radke a call PM me and I'll look up his number.
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Thanks Bill. I will PM you Smile
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Chance,

Check here.

I have used half of these plastic balls as billiard ball shells for years. The 60mm perfectly fit a 2 1/4" wooden ball. It may be larger than you need, but perhaps other sizes can be found.

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Chance,

A buddy of mine needed the same thing for a project he was working on. He wound up purchasing the cheap billiard ball sets and just ran them through the ole band saw. Worked great!

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Thanks Michael and Lyndel! I will continue to explore all options and hope to have a workable solution in the end. What a great place, the ol' Café Smile
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Those paper shells might have possibilities... a number of years ago I was making very thin and strong "papier mache'" shells with toilet paper (nope, I'm not kidding) and several coats of spray urethane. Maybe the urethane would beef up the paper shells enough to be usable?
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I am actually looking for metal shells as they are the only answer to my needs. Pretty cool suggestions either way.
Thanks again Smile
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Chance;
How many and what I.D.? Email me directly - not PM.
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Bill,

That is perfect! I have been wanting metal half ball shells for a long time to make a billiard ball stand the way they used to be made.

Jim, I will get with you as well, to see what alternative you have.

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Hi Michael,
Great minds think alike! The Billiard Ball Stand is exactly what I am working on at this time. I wanted to create a new design with the Classic feel. I will be curious to see what direction you go. Good luck with the project!
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This is a hoot! I, also, have been planning a billiard ball stand along the lines of the classic plated Conradi Horster model. I plan to precision spin the holders and required shells.
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OK....forget it now!! I am not gonna try to follow up to a Riser Masterpiece!! Smile
In all truth, I may just make one for myself since I really don't want to spend the cash on an Owen piece when I can have some fun instead.
I would love to see your final product Jim and please put me on the "Buyers List" if you choose to pursue this project!
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Find a hole and someone is sure to fill it!

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Billiard Ball Stand!!!???? Can't you guys come up with anything new??? Smile

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Oh, but these are solar-powered, and play X-Box games backstage between shows.
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Solar power, right on!! Brilliant!!! Thankfully you're not a Luddite!

Did you see the pic I took with my digital pinhole camera that I made out of a coffee can and an image sensor assembly??? I posted it at the PMZZ Message board yesterday. I think I need to make a couple of adjustments but its working better than the pinhole film camera I made when I was in high school.

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Well... after a year and a half that this thread has sat dormant, I finally took the time to make myself a billiard ball stand. Not the spun metal type as in the Conradi version, as I do not have the resources to do so, but rather of wood.

It has white balls (not golf balls) 1 3/4". There are 6 "come & go" balls surrounding 1 legitimate space. Whew! There's a lot of work in these little buggers!

The rings surrounding the openings are separate pieces glued to a sub-structure. It is not simply cut from a piece of plywood. The rings are also in relief. The black ring between the red and gold is recessed (like that makes a difference from the stage! Ha!).

The balls have a bit of clearance while in the holders (I think that gives a slightly more natural appearance), and as well are slightly off-centered (lower), nestled in, the way real balls do. That's hard to tell from the photo, which is shot from slightly above.

The "empty spaces" however, have a very close clearance of maybe a millimeter. It gives a more reliable illusion under most lighting conditions. If you know the mechanics, you know what I mean.

The mechanical action is very good. Balls appear and disappear easily with minimal effort, and natural actions, and there is no chance for the thing to set itself off accidentally.

I also tackled another issue... I had heard common complaints about some commercial ball stands being top heavy. After I turned the base, I used a 3/4" Forstner bit and drilled 6 nice holes in the bottom and filled them with molten lead. A little wood filler finished off the leveling. Voila! No tipping ball stand!

It also breaks down into three pieces for storage or transporting (base, pillar, and ball holder unit).

I've wanted one of these things since I was a kid, and never bought one... so, now I have one!

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