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Michael,

That stand looks real nice.

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Michael;
Looks good! I took a different approach with the six ball stands I made about a year ago. They were all for golf balls. The balls sat in cups in the position shown in the picture of a left over part:

http://www.jamesriser.com/Magic/GolfBallAndShell2463.jpg

The metal shells (like the one shown) were dimpled and powder coated white to match a golf ball. This "shell unit" was mounted in a turned cup on the stand (no pictures of the finished product will be shown to avoid rip offs). I wanted the stand to merely look like a series of cups to hold the golf balls.

Rather than using melted lead for a base weight, I often use a disc of steel that sets into a rebate turned into the base - then gets screwed in for security.

Anyway, nice job on your ball vase project. Now you have one!
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Hi Jim,

That golf ball shell looks great! My favorite part... the dimple pattern is "tilted" and the ball appears randomly placed in the cup. Bravo!

I'm assuming you've seen this:

http://www.conradi-horster.de/

Follow the apparatus link to the ball stand. I had one of his watch pistols in my possession for a time. His work is remarkable for the period that it comes from.
Good idea on the steel disc for weight. I just happened to have a bunch of lead weights here with no good purpose in mind.

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Yes, I have seen the Conradi-Horster image. They made other models too. Mine is much more open than the cage type like yours and the Conradi model shown. The ones I made were more like the version Maurice Rooklyn used. Owen makes a similar design in much easier to work wood.

The dimples on the golf ball shells are a real pain to make. Did you know that all golf balls are not dimpled alike?

I used to collect old tire weights to melt down for mounting stone wheels for glass engraving/cutting. I understand your using them.
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Michael;
Here are some ball stands more like the golf ball stands I made last year. I prefer the open look of this type of ball stand.

The Owen/Thayer wooden designs - http://www.owenmagic.com/New_Items/1817BC.jpg
The Viking version of the old Conradi design - http://www.vikingmagiccompany.com/?nd=large&key=784

The ones I made were a cross between the Rooklyn and old Conradi designs. Not every cup is gimmicked on such stands.

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Jim,

Thanks for those links. I have seen the Viking version, but had not seen the Owen styles as shown. I had only seen the Owen circular design that is shaped similar to mine. The larger of the two Owen designs shown has a better cup design. The balls are not as obscured. That's something I really like about the Conradi design. Greater Magic shows good detail of this in a drawing. The overall design of that larger Owen design is a bit over the top in my opinion. Extreme Goth!!

I have however, seen the old Thayer version (Perfecto Ball Stand), similar to the smaller by Owen; one that Joe Stevens has here:

http://stevensmagic.com/rareantiques/index.htm

I am not familiar with what Rooklyn used. I'm guessing it's similar to the Thayer version? (Looks like a perch with feed cups?)

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Michael;
Rooklyn's model is shown along with drawings in his book. His billiard ball routine work is there too. His is more like the Conradi model than the Thayer straight line version.
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Thanks!
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