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A.J. Veteran user Michigan 314 Posts |
Mick,
That was a great post...thank you. A.J. |
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mc_magi Special user Vancouver, BC 949 Posts |
Okay if yhou are about to pull it out of your brain... as mick has suggested. I wont give you the whole patter line but I know that larry jennings had this effect with wallet (not just c2w but few changes and card under the wallet as well) being the jail. it had the spec's card as the robber and 2 joker or 2 mate cards being the cops. it was great.
try to build up on that with acr, you might be able to come up with awesome stuff. |
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Mick Ayres Special user Hilton Head Island 998 Posts |
Mike,
I stand by every word of my post. My statements either apply to you or they don't. You asked for ideas (repeatedly). I gave you one. You then asked for more. I assumed you were not familiar with the creative process so I shared it with you. This is being pretentious? I thought it was generosity. Peace, Mick Ayres
THE FIVE OBLIGATIONS OF CONJURING: Study. Practice. Script. Rehearse. Perform. Drop one and you're done.
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JohnLamberti Elite user Los Angeles, CA 420 Posts |
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On 2005-08-21 12:41, italianmagi90023 wrote: Mike, I think you're misinterpreting Mick's post. I didn't read any of that as "pretentious" or "stabbing comments." He was simply giving you honest, constructive criticism. It's not always possible to couch a piece of advice in flowery sounding language. Sometimes it takes pointed words to get a point across. When Mick said Quote:
"You do have a performance character, don't you? If not, you have more serious problems with your act than just this particular trick". he was giving you good, solid advice. He wasn't poking fun at you or telling you you have a bad act. He was simply pointing out something that you may or may not have been aware of. The language is sharp because it needs to make an impact, not because he thinks you're an idiot or something. I think it's important to be able to to take constructive criticism the right way. Sometimes it's not always peaches and honey. But I can honestly say that the best pieces of advice I've gotten in magic (and in life, really) have been when someone has said to me something like "That's not a very good idea...and here's why it stinks." Not easy to hear, but sometimes very necessary. |
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Mick Ayres Special user Hilton Head Island 998 Posts |
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I think it's important to be able to to take constructive criticism the right way. Sometimes it's not always peaches and honey. But I can honestly say that the best pieces of advice I've gotten in magic (and in life, really) have been when someone has said to me something like "That's not a very good idea...and here's why it stinks." Not easy to hear, but sometimes very necessary. John, Your statement brought to mind something Kirk Stiles once told me before his passing. It was 1978, I was nineteen and in the military. In those days, I moonlighted with a street act and tablehopped a few restaurants around Miami and Ft. Lauderdale...I thought I was pretty hot stuff with a deck of cards and that over-inflated opinion was starting to show itself. Kirk (God bless him) pulled me aside at a SAM meeting and said, "Magic has enough a**holes in it already...don't be another one. And one more thing: you've got some good moves--but you don't have good presentations to go with them." Then he walked off. I was fuming, hurt, angry...because Kirk was right. I had created a few new sleights and was proud of them, but I didn't have any decent routines to go with them. Not one. Eventually, I swallowed my so-called pride and focused on writing scripts for every routine. It was hard work but it completely changed my attitude and approach to the art of magic. If Kirk hadn't confronted me, I have no idea where I'd be standing today. Best, Mick
THE FIVE OBLIGATIONS OF CONJURING: Study. Practice. Script. Rehearse. Perform. Drop one and you're done.
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italianmagi90023 Loyal user 250 Posts |
Mick,
Don't misunderstand me. I thanked you for the detailed and thoughtful post. I also agree that coming up with a script for each routine is something that I need to spend time completing. I may have taken your comments wrong, if so I apologize. I was just attempting to gather as many ideas as possible so that I would have several to choose from in order to incorporate them into a routine that fits me and my presentational style. Again, I apologize for any misinterpretation. Mike |
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Mick Ayres Special user Hilton Head Island 998 Posts |
Mike,
No worries, mate. I wish you well in reaching your goal. You'll do fine. Best, Mick
THE FIVE OBLIGATIONS OF CONJURING: Study. Practice. Script. Rehearse. Perform. Drop one and you're done.
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therntier Special user 681 Posts |
I think people are missing the obvious answer. The motivation I use is to either get money or to put money away.
IF you don't like that, think why else would you pull out your wallet? |
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jeline Regular user Baltimore 150 Posts |
I really enjoy Mr. Giobbi's take on card to wallet in his British Symposium lecture. It is probably the same as in Card College 5, which Frank pointed out.
Mr. Giobbi's explanation is truly a master class in routining (so that spectators mis-remember things), motivating moves, and misdirection. If you're serious about learning a card to wallet routine, get his material. Even if you don't use the presentation, you'll learn a ton about construction. |
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