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Jean-Denis
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I'm about to learn the Zufall's memory technique, but before I go in this direction, do you know of any better method to learn entire magazines or books (just in case)? I'm a very visual person.
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I like Harry Lorayne's memory system. It has been wonderful for me. I saw him (on one of his DVDs) have people call out random page numbers on a current magazine and he noted articles, photos, ads on them.

Don't know Zufall, but you might want to compare it with Lorayne to see which might fit your needs better.
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Indeed Lorayne is the way I go
Thanks! Scott B.

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Thanks for the suggestion,

Does anybody tried both methods and have a preference? Or does anybody use any of them and can tell me how much time it takes approximately to memorize a complete magazine?
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Memorizing the magazine is not the key. The key is getting down the system of memory that will enable you to memorize the magazine. Doing the magazine could take just 15-30 minutes (or more, depending on how much of each page you want to memorize).

It took me a few weeks before I could memorize the keys for 1-100 (many magazines are less than 100 pages, fortunately).

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Never heard of Zufal, but I gotta tell you, the Lorayne system worked for me. I learned the MBCS by Richard Osterlind using this method, and if I can do it you can
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Lorayne's system is based on Zufall's. If you compare them together, you'll see plenty of similarities.

For the voice of experience, Tony Andruzzi's Magazine Memory Act is tough to beat. Most descriptions of this feat focus on the technique. Tony's tape teaches that, and goes beyond to teach how to get into it, how to keep it moving and interesting, and how to build it to a climax! One of the best tips is to do the magazine feat for trade shows with your client's product catalog. The crowd is impressed that you can memorize so much, and your client is impressed that your act consists solely of selling his product! Think about this: Who is he going to keep hiring? The guy who works the products in between his magic tricks, or the guy whose act is selling the products?

A more modern version of this could be done, as I've suggested on my blog, you could do this with a DVD box set, instead.

Barrie Richardson's new book, Act Two, contains a must-read section on this feat, titled, "Thoughts on the Memorized Magazine Demonstration". It's only 4 pages long, but it's 4 pages of thoughts from years of experience of performing this feat.

You should also check out Anton Zellman's performances of feats like this.
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I once did a book test with a book of motion picture horror movies. Almost every page had at least one picture from a classic movie. I simply memorized the picture and linked it to the numbers. I had people from the audience call out numbers and another person opened the book to that page. Then I described the picture/s they were looking at.

The problem with this type of presentation is you have to make it look like you couldn't possibly have memorized the contents. I believe what I did at the time was to make up a story about how I just got the book (I still had the price tag on the cover) and how impossible it would be to memorize all the pages! (Audiences will usually believe what you tell them if you don't give them reason not to) Then I had to do my acting part when they looked at the picture.

There was some room in there for cold reading because I asked each person if they had ever seen that movie or something like it. Then I would play off how they reacted and what their fears are.

Just my two cents.

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The problem with this type of presentation is you have to make it look like you couldn't possibly have memorized the contents.

I am not sure I understand why. Why can't you do just the opposite? Just tell them that you are going to memorize the magazine during a coffee break? Use five minutes of your break to "memorize" the magazine. Then 15 minutes to have a cup and chat with people? Wouldn't that impress people?
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Hjelm,

Of course you can do that and it would be just fine. I was just saying that if you want the effect to be one of telepathy, then you have to discount the memorization idea. Most mentalism effects can play in different ways and you have to decide what you want to get out of it.

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Presented as a mental feat, a memorized magazine can be very powerful. Tony Andruzzi refers to using it as a mental feat in his tape. His method is short, powerful and unfathomable to anyone who doesn't know you have an entire magazine memorized.
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Richard, thanks for your suggestion; If I cannot master the full technique (it happens), I will try your idea (horror movies) with a similar magazine containing images on each page.

Scott, thanks once again for your knowledge of the brain feats. I will seek for Tony's tape.

By the way, for those who would like to know, I could find the Zufall's technique at lybrary.com
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On 2005-08-16 09:13, Richard Osterlind wrote:
I simply memorized the picture and linked it to the numbers.


Ahhh... linking. This is definitely one of my favorite memory techniques. I first learned it from Harry Lorayne's Super Memory Super Student book. In fact, I used linking to memorize your "ODD" effect, which by the way, I used for the first time tonight in conjuction with StenoESP! It went over great.
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Would it make sense to have a bunch of magazines, one of which you've memorized, offered for selection. You force the memorized one, flip through it quickly, and then demonstrate your photographic memory.

Just a quick idea. Has anyone tried it that way? What do you think?

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Ted Karmilovich showed me a really simple way to memorize an entire magazine in 5 min. I've used this method for 15 years now - love it Smile
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Memorizing a magazine is enough, no need to force one of a few. That will be lost afterwords anyway.

Harry Lorayne has a pretty easy method to learn and impliment. I would suggest it.
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Choose a Playboy. It's a really easy magazine to memorize.
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Hahaha yeah it is - you mean the stories right? Smile
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The method Lorayne teaches (which I've been using with great success, both onstage and for real-life applications, for 20 years) is really very similar to the method Andruzzi teaches for his magazine act. Never having studied Zufall, I would highly recommend Lorayne. The material is probably very similar, and, what's just as important, Lorayne is a superb teacher. BTW, I have studied Dominic O'Brien as well, and would say that the O'Brien method is more powerful in the long run, but with a much steeper learning curve -- and may be more than you'll ever need.

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While waiting for a plane to take off, one of my favorite impromptu things to do is to silently leaf through the courtesy magazine. It doesn't take long at all, just turn the pages.

After take off, I hand the magazine to the person seated next to me and ask them to name any page number -- and I describe what's on the page. This can also work in reverse -- they describe the article or ad and I name the page number.

It only takes a quick leafing to capture the info -- it always amazes the person and serves as a nice ice breaker.

You don't have to memorize the entire magazine if you choose not to -- but limiting the person's choices to the "first 50 pages" is still pretty impressive.

I use the same methods that I described in my trick "The 30 Second Memorized Deck" (see my free trick from early October, 2005).

If interest deems it worthwhile, I might publish a quick guide to mnemonics, including exercises and effects.
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