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Wikiro,

Don't let it bother you. There's no harm in getting or being excited about something that you enjoy.

Despite the initial reaction to your word usage, I guarantee that everyone here is routing for you.

It may sound at first like everyone is angry with you or that they think you're clueless, but rest assured that the things that have been said stem from a desire to aid you in giving beautiful performances rather than unintentional card manipulation exposes.

Having said that, I also think that McBride's series is top notch. Personally, I would say that 9.5 is a conserative estimate considering the quality and care placed into these videos.

As far as routines go, generally 2-5 minutes should suffice. Depending on what types of productions you are doing, this may wind up being a LOT of cards (imagine 5 minutes worth of near-constant split fans for example).

In regards to "what next", I totally agree with Jeb. You have a wealth of information on hand. It's time to start putting it to work for you. Begin constructing some short manipulative sequences and work your way up to a full blown routine.

Stay creative, stay original and never stop practicing. If anything, one might say that this is perhaps the closest thing to a true path towards mastery that you're likely to find.

All the best.
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My suggestion for further study, if you can find them, is jean hugards card manipulations 1-5 and card control by arthur buckley. Those books have had a bigger influence on me tnah anything else in magic

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Card control by Arthur Buckley? What is that Ive seen it once but forgot what was in it.
Is it on total card control?
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I've missed you grasshopper Smile

Anyway, the whole point of manipulation is routining. No matter how good your sleights are doing single sleights isn't particularly impressive and it is MUCH easier to figure out what happened. I noticed you mentioned that you can do the mercury production routine. That's a good one, I like the tenkai/packet vanish one. Short and sweet.

A good place to start would be A Card Act by Tom Osborne. It's a small book and it is a full manipulation routine laid out for you. This will 1. give you something to perform and 2. let you see a "model" for routining.

Last tip you said you had all but 5, if arm spreads are one of them I'd recommend you keep working on them. I went to a seminar with Jeff McB and I was the only one there (other than McB) who could do arms spreads and catches. That was pretty neat.

-Dan

PS The Buckley book is on controls like shifts, crimps Etc. Eugene Burger recommended that book to me.
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On 2002-10-27 17:50, wikiro wrote:
I have finished these tapes and mastered all but about 5 manipulations only because I thought they were not worth it, but if I were to rate this tape on manipultion it would get a 9.5 out of ten 10. Every card person should get these tapes. It for me took 6 months to understand eveything really well and perform the sleights amost perfect. Now here is my question Smile where should I go from here?

Wikiro Smile


do you have the tarbell series? the art of astonishment (aoa)? AOA is crazy.
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No I dont have many books and cash for that matter I bought these tapes from a member of this Café. Really nice guy. $45 for the whole set and they were really never used.


Also I added to the mercury production I think it might be to fancy though.


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What's the addition?

Not quite sure why, but personally, I keep getting this urge to throw in a Ken Brooke or a Lee Grable every now and again (though these often have to wait until the stock is a little smaller).
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Haha exactly what I do.
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well, that should tell you it's not too fancy. I'm definately not a fancy person and I keep finding myself wanting to do it.
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Oh and Geoff I hope it goes really well. Tell use what happens.


Thanks.. I'm a little nervous but I will be workshopping with McBride the night before my show, so hopefully that will help..

as for the Tom Osbourne routine, its very minimal on the productions side of things, which seems to be the route favored by McBride students.... maybe this is a good thing? Its nice to see a very different point of view for a card act.. I must admit I choked a little when I saw the part about following the arms spreads with a cane spread!!
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When you are performing always think you are better than you are it gives a good effect and also I never seen a McBride show does he even talk in them?
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On 2002-11-04 15:49, Geoff Weber wrote:
...but I will be workshopping with McBride the night before my show, so hopefully that will help..


you get to workshop with McBride!?!?! life is just not fair.

You gotta tell him he rules once for me. maybe twice. Smile

all the best.
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oh and ask him where he gets those mask ideas?
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My show went really well. We had a sell out crowd, and I got a big picture in the Washington Post. Jeff gave me some excellent advice which I worked into my routine.
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Congratulations!!!!! Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile
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On 2002-11-04 16:14, wikiro wrote:
When you are performing always think you are better than you are it gives a good effect and also I never seen a McBride show does he even talk in them?

Jeff was at a convention in Atlanta this past weekend. I got to meet him and talk with him about his new theater, the impact of music on his act. I really enjoyed his lecture about being a magician "24/7".

It was the first show I've seen of his and was impressed - it would probably be even grander on the big stage. It is incredible from a few feet away though!

I haven't done it, but he does offer these "Master Workshops" in Vegas.

-Ron
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oh and ask him where he gets those mask ideas?


............erm...maybe i'm misunderstanding you but the Chinese have been doing that for centuries... performing changing masks is like doing lab changes or an eidetic change... pretty tough.... does anybody here actually do the eidetic infront of people?
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Here's the story on how the masks came into the act: When he was a teenager, he started by just putting a mask on the front of his table as a set decoration... Then after a while he tried putting some silks in the mask and pulling them out the eye holes to do a trick with... Then he tried wearing the mask, pulling out the silks, taking off the mask and doing the trick... so you see, it started off simple, and with a little experimentation, he just kept adding more and more...
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I am really jealous that you got to work with Jeff. I used to occasionally (I mean VERY RARELY) bump into Eugene Burger at a local magic club I was involved in. Unfortunately I was too young and stupid to realize how awesome of a magician he really is, so I didn't take the time to really work with him. I was only about 10 years old. Now I wish I had spent more time learning from the man.

The thing that really irks me is that he personally taught me how to do his "Shot Glass Suprise" eleven years ago, and I forgot it. Now it's a hot selling item, and I don't have enough cash to buy it!

CRUD.

-sorry bout going off on a tangent there.

My point is that working with the likes of Jeff and Eugene is a really awesome thing and I hope everybody in this forum at least has a chance to 'meet & greet' two of magic's greats sometime in their lives.

By the way congrats on the show Geoff. Is there a tape of the performance we could watch?

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I have never met another magician exept for someone street entertaining in Virginia Beach and in a kids show in boy scouts(i was 5). So my best magician experience is with the tv with David Copperfield. I have never seen another magician perorm all the way through till resently when David Blaine showed up. Also Peter Marvey (the man who got me into magic). So im pretty much on my own.

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