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kingmedia
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I'm researching a new chop cup routine and I'm looking to get away from the usual "is the ball in the cup or is it in the pocket" approach. Anybody have any ideas, suggestions or can you direct me to established routines that I can study for inspiration?
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Doug Brewer has 2 good ones in his book "The Unexpected Visitor: Coin Magic for the Walk Around Performer" One uses the miracle coin cup, and the other is a single cup and ball routine with a potato load kicker. The latter I have been using (slightly altered handling) with great response. Hope this helps.
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Try Larry Jenning's chop cup routine in "Larry Jennings on Card and Coin Handling" by Jeff Busby. Another variation of Larry's famous chop cup routine can be found in Jim Swain's "21st Century Card Magic" in the Larry Jennings section. This routine is so good that Al Wheatly (inventor of the chop cup) asked Larry not to put it in to print as he felt it was too good to be tipped.



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Dorian knows his stuff, and I gotta go along with him on this one--Larry's is the best. Aldo Colombini has a nice routine called, "Laser Cup," which is available as a separate item and can also be found in his book, "Impact," published by Mickey Hades.
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I think Rafael Benatar has some lecture notes flying about covering a good chop routine (but I may be mistaken-it could be a combo with 3 cups including the chop) called the transit cups and balls or the trick with the fr.......... don`t say it!!! Smile

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Also worth checking out is Finn Jonn's, "New Theory Chop Cup" from, "Spectacle" by Stephen Minch.
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Another good routine can be found in,

"The Professional Routines of Ron Frederick."



It too uses a small cup along with the chop cup.



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Thanks for all the great info everyone. Happy New Year!
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Kingmedia,

Larry White, the magic editor of M-U-M magazine, did a beautiful chop cup routine for my Showtime column in the Linking Ring of January, 2001.

It's based on the story of Snow White, with plenty of comedy.

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Scott Guinn has a nice chop cup routine in his, "It’s More Magic" book, as well, that can be done standing...



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In Ron Wilson's, "THE UNCANNY SCOT" there is a chop cup routine done with a cardboard coffee cup and at the end of the routine the magician produces a snifter of brandy. By the way, the Larry Jenning's chop cup routine that has been previously mentioned here is really Ron Wilson's routine. Ask any Magic Castle regular.



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Paul!

To be more accurate, I have a cups and balls routine that uses one chop cup and one matching ungimmicked cup.



Thanks for mentioning it! That's very kind of you.
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Ken Brooke did a routine with a CC plus a shot glass, silk and two Large Load coloured balls. Don’t know if it’s in print anymore.
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John Bannons chop 2 is brilliant.
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Any good handling for a shot glass sized,
mini chop cup?
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On 2002-08-21 12:37, KingStardog wrote:
Any good handling for a shot glass sized,
mini chop cup?

Hmmm.... Your use of the words "shot glass" got me thinking.... Mine almost looks like a shot glass.

I wonder if you could use 'modified' green olives, with a small lime as the final load.
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There seem to be two approaches to the chop cup. Both involve a hidden gimmick. It may be built into either the cup or the ball.
Building it into the ball allows the use of a steel bottomed cardboard "cup" such as is used for many snack products.

I've been working on this but have been unable to find a source of the gimmicked balls. Anyone know where I might get some at a reasonable price?

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The balls can be acquired anywhere at a reasonable price. Just call up your local magic dealer.

I've been using a Pringles can as a chop cup with the Mike Rogers baseballs.

It's a good match.

The baseballs and an actual chop cup did not work so well.

The balls and the cup liked each other too much, if you know what I mean.

One other thing. LJ's routine --though it is great-- requires that the magician is seated if I'm not mistaken.

If you want a routine that is more walk around, I picked up the Jim Sisti routine, but it is more of the "where's the ball" storyline. Not bad, though.

I also read a strolling routine in a recent magic magazine which I since lost. It was an in-the-spectator's hands version which I thought was a good idea for strolling magic. I just don't remember how to do it. Basically, a silk is placed on the spectator's hands and then the cup. Vanish a ball, and ask the spectator if they feel anything. No? Shake the cup, and now the hear it rattle around in the cup.
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On 2002-08-26 03:35, fstarsinic wrote:
I've been using a pringles can as a chop cup with the mike rogers baseballs.

it's a good match.


Hmmm... I wonder if those puffed cheese balls come in similar 'short' can?

If so, that might make an interesting chop cup routine...

I'll check the next time I'm at the grocery store.
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I know at least one magician who does the Jennings routine standing. If I remember correctly only one load has to come from under the table/pocket. Should not be a problem.

I would also recommend Larry White's Snow White routine from the Linking Ring. Another one of those magic tricks wrapped in a story.
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