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ImpromptuBoy
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Hi Everyone.
Can you recommend any books besides Revolutionary Card Technique, Darwin Ortiz Scams and Fantasies that have good gambling demonstrations?
Paul Sherman
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I'm sure a search would turn up tons of stuff.

Obviously, Ortiz's other works would be a good starting place.
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The obvious answer here is Steve Forte's Gambling Protecting book. It does go for like $200 but I hear it is the absolute best
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If you want gambling effects, Steve's book does NOT contain any gambling effects of any kind anywhere!

It is not designed for magicians. Obvioulsy there are common techniques that a card cheat / magician share but do not buy this book if you're looking for gambling effects!

If you want the most comprehensive book ever written on casino game protection covering all the games and all the angles you could think of (and loads you wont!!!) then you should buy Steve's book.

I've been slowly working my way through this book and I have to say it has exceeded my expectations - and given it had Steve's name on the cover in the first place that says a lot!

For gambling effects in print or video/dvd search the Café, this one comes up frequently.
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He's not looking for gambling/cheating moves, but for gambling demonstrations. I heard Vernon had a brilliant poker deal.
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On 2005-09-18 07:21, yentlswolfs wrote:
He's not looking for gambling/cheating moves, but for gambling demonstrations. I heard Vernon had a brilliant poker deal.


OK, we need to be clear what he's after, because I'm not!! What's the difference between a gambling demonstration and a gambling effect?

In any event, Steve's book doesn't *teach* you how to do anything per se, it's an expose, designed primarly for Casino protection staff to show the methods used and how to spot them.

This is how Steve describes it:

"...is a complete, one-volume course in the science of casino game protection, an invaluable training tool for management, pit personnel, surveillance, security, and related law enforcement agencies, and a must read for all gamers hungry for knowledge!"

You're not going to be taught how to do a second deal for example.

This is distinctly different from the two books the poster originally mentioned.
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When a magician refers to a gambling demo, one can only assume that he's talking about convincing his audience that he has great skill through some sort of trickery. So he may claim to be doing a false deal when in reality he's using a simpler method. Or she may claim she's stacking the deck when really just using a false deal. Or in some rare cases he may do exactly what he says he's going to do and demo a move (not my favourite scenario at all) - you know, "watch and see if you can spot my 2nd deal"...) - but there's still trickery involved, but the audience is "in" on it. At any rate although we try to slap a legitimate title on it, there's some sort of trickery going on. Gambling demos are tricks.

I don't have any of Jim Swain's magic books (though I do have his novels) but I would expect to find some good gambling type of magic effects there.

You can't go wrong with the poker deal that shows up in so many books - Marlo/Gardner, Lorayne, Royal Road etc. It's simple, not flashy but to the point.

The Vernon poker deal is pretty fun and impressive.

Card College contains a few gambling themed demos/tricks.

As mentioned above the Forte book is not what you're looking for here. There's no magic in it - it's great, but again - not a magic book.
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Jack Carpenter Modus Operandi has some Gambling effects and so does Drawing Room Deceptions by Guy Hollingowrth, that has one of the most inpressive displays ive seen
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scorch
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Tamariz's Mnemonica has many miracle-class gambling demonstrations, and much more besides.
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Martin Nash's work contains many gambling and psuedo-gambling demonstrations.
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I would say the majority of card magic books on the market today will have some sort of a gambling theme'd effect in them. However, IMHO the following authors have written books with entire sections relating to gambling type effects:

Jim Swain, Darwin Ortiz, Andrew Whimhurst, Jack Carpenter, and Earnest Earick to name a few.
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