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jkvand
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I made my own Cardiographic by following the directions from Martin Lewis' DVD, and I happened to find a thin piece of sheet metal at a hobby shop that was perfect for it. Unfortunately, I was traveling in another state at the time, and cannot find that type of piece of sheet metal anywhere here, and I'm not even sure what it was used for. I hate going into a store of any type and trying to explain to the sales clerk that I need this item for a magic trick, because it's just awkward. Does anyone know where to find such a thin piece of sheet metal for Cardiographic, OR do you know what a hobby shop would have carried that item for, so I can maybe do a search on the web and try to locate it. When I type in 'sheet metal' I just get all kinds of hits, and would like to try to narrow my search. Thanks!
Bill Hegbli
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"I hate going into a store of any type and trying to explain to the sales clerk that I need this item for a magic trick, because it's just awkward."

Don't you feel worse putting it in writing?

I go to the hardware store and hobby shop all the time and they are very helpful.

GEE, I feel so silly and awkward, talking about this.

Why are you pulling our leg, if you found it in a store, got to the same type of store and the same type of section.
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I'm not acquainted with Cardiographic so I don't know how big your piece of metal must be but small sheets of brass of different thicknesses are sold in hobby stores. If you need only a small piece of a specific thickness, try an auto supply store and ask to see the shims. Stores like Home Depot sell 2 X 3 foot sheets of inexpensive galvanized iron that can be cut to size with metal shears. Also look in the roofing section of the store for the thin metal sheets used to slide under shingles and/or the gutter metals.
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Go to any shop that makes trophies and plaques. Have them cut you a piece of sheet aluminum of the size you need. Better still... have them cut you a few pieces. They'll likely be cheaper in quantity, and you'll have backups.
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jkvand
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Thank you to those who gave helpful replies. wmhegbli, your reply was not helpful, I perceive it to be somewhat patronizing, and I don't understand why. Typically this Café is a helpful place, not one that inspires comments such as yours. I was traveling in Long Island, NY at the time, and happened upon a hobby shop there. I have moved, and where I live now there is no hobby shop, no same type of store or same type of section, so I've checked at craft stores, WalMart, etc., but have not found what I am looking for. I am not pulling your leg, I am trying to find help so that I can get the item I need. Thanks again to those who posted helpful comments, I'll check out those places.
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I am also not familiar with the effect, or the thickness of the metal you need, but if it is very thin, you might also check for a machine shop, and see if they have any shim stock that will work, OR check with an air conditioner (HVAC) business, they may have some sheet metal used in ducting that would work.
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Bill Hegbli
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Local hardware store. We have Ace Hardware and True Value Hardware around here.
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Hello:

I've tried the Hardware stores myself, with no luck. I've gone to Lowes and Home Depot, as well as the smaller Ace and True Value, but none have what jkvand is looking for. There is sheet metal to found in these places, but it is all too thick - it would make the pad too heavy and lumpy.

I wonder...maybe contacting Martin Lewis at http://www.magikraft.com is the best bet. I've contacted him before, and he was very prompt and helpful.

Ron
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What size do you need? I've got sheet metal in quite few gauges.

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jkvand
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I need a strip about 3" X 10", and the thinner the better (but not so thin that it bends, crinkles or wrinkles). It has to be a type of metal that magnets will stick to.
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Sounds like you could cut up a tin can for a perfectly sized piece.

Thanks,
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I got mine from Home Depot. They had pieces of sheet metal that only cost a few dollars. I just had to cut it to the right size with some tin snips. It works perfectly.
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In case my post was overlooked, I'll repeat it again...

"Go to any shop that makes trophies and plaques. Have them cut you a piece of sheet aluminum of the size you need."

They use this stuff to make the engraved metal sheets on plaques, the name strips on trophies, and for those shops that fabricate their own trophies, it can be bent and/or rolled into designer columns. The aluminum is thin, sturdy and extremely light weight. It also comes in a few dozen colors if you ever need that option. They will also have sheet brass, sometimes in various gauges. It solders beautifully, but is heavier than the aluminum.

Both of these metals are non-magnetic, and they come in flat sheets 12" x 24" (you don't have to cut open a can or flatten rolled flashing). The trophy shops will surely cut it for you the size you need. They would use a shear, and not tin snips, which is what most hobbyists would have at their disposal. You want a clean cut for the gimmick to work smoothly. I have a small metal shear and I have been working with this stuff for a long, long time.

How did I come upon this source? I worked in a magic shop for almost 20 years that was part of a larger business that also made... (drum roll)... trophies & plaques! Psst...Don't forget to ask about their scrap bin.

Oh, and by the way... this is what I used to make the gimmick for my Cardiographic. I learned the original trick from the book. I've never seen the DVD. I don't think the use of metal was in the original description, but after you've torn up a few gimmicks, you tend to learn. For those listening, styrene plastic sheets commonly used by model railroaders to make buildings and such will also make a fine gimmick. Plastruct is the mfg.

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Quote:
On 2005-09-24 18:34, Michael Baker wrote:
In case my post was overlooked, I'll repeat it again...

"Go to any shop that makes trophies and plaques. Have them cut you a piece of sheet aluminum of the size you need."


Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I checked the part being talked about needs to be able to have a magnet attract to it. We are talking about the same piece aren't we?
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I yield to you, sir! I mis-read that part of his post. You are not wrong, I was.

My Cardiographic uses no magnets, so I overlooked jkvand's need for them. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Martin says to use a steel, so maybe I'm missing something. I think what you are looking for is called a "k and s" center which has an assortment of metal and plastic and can be found in any decent hobby shop.

PS - I've just bought martin's tape and look forward to making mine soon! I'll post if I find the materials in question.
jkvand
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Bsears,
That could be just what I'm looking for! This hobby shop had a rack with several different types and sizes of sheet metal, individually wrapped in plastic with red lettering on them. I don't recall seeing plastic pieces along with the metal ones, but I wasn't looking for plastic, so they probably had those too. What does "k and s" stand for, and do you know where I might find them online, since I don't have any hobby shops near me? Thanks for your post! -Jeff
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K&s is a manufacturer of metal supplies for the model & rc community. They make square, round and sheet products in many sizes and types of metal. If you don't have access to a shop nearby that supports the RC hobbyist, look on the internet for suppliers of Remote Control parts.

Hope that helps,

Alan
jkvand
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The k & s tip was exactly what I was looking for, and why I posted the request on this board. The Café members have come through again! I got in touch with someone who can mail order from k & s the size I'm looking for. Thanks for everyone's help! -Jeff
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I found suitable pieces of metal at Hobby Lobby. Any hobby store that caters to model airplanes will have it. In Hobby Lobby look in the model section.

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