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Jeremy,

Re: is the x-ray fake? Most probably not. After Dajo was prevented from performing in public, he did demonstrations exclusively for doctors. The film of Dajo is a Pathe' Newsreel of one such demonstration. He was x-rayed during the trans-abdominal piercing.

Re: Did the trans-abdominal skewering go into the abdominal muscles or in-front of them? I also have a video where a guy with a big belly gets skewered the same way, and it appears that it may have gone in front of the abdominal muscles. But in the case of Dajo, it seems to have gone right through the middle. Remember, this is in front of doctors who x-rayed him while it was in him. I will give a rough translation from the medical journal: "The sword went under the lower half of the rib cage in the middle of the axillar-line at the height of the spleen. It transversed through the upper abdomen exiting on the right side a little higher in the front of the axillar line, most likely below the liver." and, referring to the same impalement: "The foil went right through the middle part of the body" I have high quality video of this, and it really does look like it is going into abdominal cavity.

Re: There something special about Dajo's body or lungs? This something to think about. Since he survived interment in a Nazi prison camp, he may have had TB or something like that, as outbreak of all kinds of diseases were common in interment camps.
And later in the article about Dajo, talking about other cases of fakir type acts that have been studied: "This same man from the circus was examined by the well know lung specialist Schoeder Schomberg. This is explained in Brauer and Sauerbruch, when, in 1907, during a circus, long-strong needles penetrated the chest cage. Only once a double sided Pneumothorax appeared that had to be lanced (or drained)." Again please exuse the rough translation.

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Tim:

If I am getting your description correct, the sword went axillary line to axillary line (front-to-back or back-to-front) and below the liver. It is possible, that if he has a high riding liver, that would indeed be the perfect place to get skewered--only having to miss the ascending colon.

Interestingly, when I have to stick someone with a needle and biopsy something very close to a vital structure I want to avoid, I will often convert to a special type a needle, called a Hawkins needle. It has a blunt end and rather than piercing the organ I am trying to miss, the bluntness of the needle typically moves the structure aside and out of harms way. (Although, my partner just used the Hawkins needle in a case the other day and rather than missing the patient's aorta, he ended up going through it and out the other side. No harm came to the patient, by the way, but it certainly gave my collegue diarrhea.)

My other colleague tells me that there was a video of Hawkins using this needle to stab a perfused kidney a bunch of times. What he showed was that if you used a sharp needle, the kidney sprang a bunch of leaks like bugs bunny being shot by Elmer Fudd. However, when you did this with his needle, it tended to avoid the vessels and the kidney didn't leak after numerous blind sticks.

At any rate, I would love to see some of the actual "medical" documentation regarding the Dajo case. It is facinating.

Also, when I was with Todd, I never got around to telling him about the AFIP (the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology). It is the official sideshow of medicine. All of the worlds weirdest and wonderful cases go there. You get to see the real thing--two headed babies, etc. No gaffs. There is a skeleton of a guy there that had rhematoid arthritis so badly that all his bones fused. his jaw fused and he couldn't eat, so they had to punch him in the mouth and knock out his teeth to feed him. (Hey, it was the old days, whaddaya want?)

A wax cast of a guy with a 10 pound wart hanging off of his nose. Stuff like that.

All of the cases have superior documentation. The AFIP had just started when the photograph was invented so they went nuts documenting everything. Two cases actually stand out in my mind:

One was of an officer in the civil war who was shot. He developed an abcess, but wanted to be involved in some upcoming battle. However, the physician thought he was too sick. So he opened up the guy to drain the abcess and, in order to keep the tract open so the abcess could drain and heal up, the physician strung a piece of leather through it. The guy refused that newfangled anesthesia, instead opting for a stiff drink. There is a picture of this guy, standing there in military regalia, shirt off, with a piece of leather going through his body, out the other side and he is holding his drink.

The other case is a small picture of an officer next to a box. The story underneath the picture says that this was officer so-and-so (I forgot his name) and he was riding his horse, when out of nowwhere, a cannonball took off his leg. The first thing he did was quiet his horse. He picked up his leg and rode to the army hospital. Now, by this time, you get kinda curious about the box. You look in, and there is his leg! And there is the cannon ball! And then there is a little blurb about how he used to come to the AFIP each year on the anniversary of the incident.

NOW THAT IS SIDESHOW!
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I know a lady who has the ossifying disease. Her attitudes match the increasing stiffness of her body. That's bizarre.
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[quote]On 2006-02-14 21:13, jeremysweiss wrote:
Tim:

If I am getting your description correct, the sword went axillary line to axillary line (front-to-back or back-to-front) and below the liver. It is possible, that if he has a high riding liver, that would indeed be the perfect place to get skewered--only having to miss the ascending colon.


Jeremy,

I believe that they are talking about the side to side skewering, as it is also refers to photograph showing this. It deals with the back to front skewering at another point in the article.

Best,

Tim
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I was thinking mid-clavicular line to mid clavicular line. You just can't go axillary line to axillary line. Too many things in the way. You could give that illusion, though as I outlined above. To me, he looks like he is going in front of the abdominal wall, staying in the fat (skinny as he is). The photos are just too small for me to really get a good look. Great act, though.

Anyone looking to try it, might want to get a CT scan first, to see what your best route would be. Although, I would have to have you committed to an institution....

I did have one young, highly pierced patient, who had appendicitis and developed an abcess. He needed multiple drains (tubes sticking out of him to drain his abcess). He was the only patient who actually "enjoyed" the procedure. I think he mostly got a kick out of showing off his drains. You know, someone would say "Hey, look at my Prince Albert" and he would say, "That's nothin', look at this", open up his shirt and reveal all of these tubes sticking out of him like some cyborg.

I also had one patient I didn't quite comprehend (actually, among many)her "fear". She too, had an abcess, that required placement of a drainage tube. (the ultimate in body piercing) and was all freaked out about it. We give lots of narcotics and benzodiazepines, so the patient is quite relaxed. Anyways, I scanned her first and the scan showed that she had her nether-region pierced. I thought, "You must be kidding me. She has that pierced and she is afraid of this?"
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Jeremy,

For a better idea of the location of the exit point go to this page
http://www.sapientia.ch/Kunterbunte%20Texte/Mirin_Dajo.htm
and scroll down to the middle photograph. This is a still from the Pathe' Newsreel.

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CRAZY. Totally CRAZY!--Probably the toughest way to make a living I can think of.

Best of luck to however trys this (please don't come to my ER).

The biggest question is: How did this guy first decide to try this? Did he wake up one morning and say, "Hey, I wonder what would happen if...". Was he skewered by someone else trying to kill him and he got up from his barstool and walked back over to the guy, saying "nanny, nanny booboo"? Was he lifting up a crate of swords and the bottom of the box gave way? What motivated this guy?
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C'mon, guys!!!!!!! You can see the thumbtip from a mile away !!!!!!!!!!
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Quote:

I also had one patient I didn't quite comprehend (actually, among many)her "fear". She too, had an abcess, that required placement of a drainage tube. (the ultimate in body piercing) and was all freaked out about it. We give lots of narcotics and benzodiazepines, so the patient is quite relaxed. Anyways, I scanned her first and the scan showed that she had her nether-region pierced. I thought, "You must be kidding me. She has that pierced and she is afraid of this?"



Since she was pierced in a warm, dark, moist area she may have had a bad experience with infection after the "procedure" and was afraid of going through something like that again... Or she just needs to get her priorities straight. Either way, this has been a fascinating thread.
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Yes, penetrating thought.
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I have been doing a bit of research and am trying to get some of the medical papers regarding Dajo (which are written in other languages) translated. It has been very difficult so far--I am still waiting. Maybe I'll have it by The Gathering.
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