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I do.

To confirm - Rorty is a genius (but too concerned with politics - rather than just livng as the grand old existentialists - Sartre - were), Dilts is a swine & a s***, Bandler is a loveable nutter with some good stuff to say, & I'm not remotely interested in what any other NLPer has to say other than him. Some of my oldest friends are "NLPers" & frankly it's like talking to a salesman desperately trying to sell me a fiat punto.

I truly believe - as far as NLP goes - listen to Bandler & ignore the rest ...
but it depends on your needs. Ignore me - there are plenty on here that know more than me.

give me that hob-nob, back to Acorah! ...
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On 2005-09-28 17:38, bobser wrote:
Sorry John, you seem lke a nice guy. And that's a great picture by the way (love your kid). But we don't wanna give you too much info. Wait, take it easy. We've still to see a Dutchman lifting the world cup.

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I have no idea what any of that meant. But I googled Acorah and got the info I was looking for.
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I have been speaking to James Randi and I understand Acorah will soon be in his spotlight also Robyn Welch (see seperate thread psychic surgery).
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On a more serious note Ian...
The problem with what Randi does, with 'assumed' pseudo psychics, is that it's simply been hammered to death.
Randi probably doesn't always 'know' exactly what method 'a' particular 'con-man' might be doing but rather postulates his offering of how the same effect might be replicated.
If this is the case (and I believe it to be so) then it could be argued that all Randi is really doing is using such an opportunity to express 'his own' skills.
I don't have a problem with this as it's a very good marketing ploy, it's just that it's beginning to make us yawn ever so slightly. And again, even if successful, simply tells us what we already know, that there's lots of con-men out there.

Now then, what I'm suggesting is that it's a far more interesting game when we are challenged with proving a positive. Even if the investigator is actually a cynic, it's just a far more interesting game and possess's far more marketing value. At worst it's called -'having fun' and at best... who knows? Many in here admit that they treated their own investigation as merely that, a game, yet received a few shocks and surprises along the way.
And let's be honest, although we might not know the exact methods for each one of, say, Derren Brown's effects, there exists in here a small army of people who could, if ever commissioned, present an exposure TV programme on such a person and effects. We don't because 'he is a member of the same army' and anyway, we simply do not do that.
Now I know exposing fake psychics is a different kettle of fish, all I'm saying is... it's just too easy to do. Randi, Mandi, Candi,... anyone can make anyone else look bad. That doesn't take any special talent in any way whatsoever.

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In the Daily Mirror this week ( not the greatest newspaper it must be said ), there was a so called expose on Derek A.

OK, so the newspaper's a rag, but he still didn't exactly come out of it smelling of roses !

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These are the Daily Mirror stories Piers is referring to. Intersting though not surprizing.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/......age.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/......age.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/......age.html

Bobser's private reading might be another matter though and we should at least give him credit for being better informed than average when it comes to this sort of thing.
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But what does surprise me is that the attacked to not attack.

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On 2005-09-30 05:20, bobser wrote:
On a more serious note Ian...
The problem with what Randi does, with 'assumed' pseudo psychics, is that it's simply been hammered to death.
Randi probably doesn't always 'know' exactly what method 'a' particular 'con-man' might be doing but rather postulates his offering of how the same effect might be replicated.
If this is the case (and I believe it to be so) then it could be argued that all Randi is really doing is using such an opportunity to express 'his own' skills.
I don't have a problem with this as it's a very good marketing ploy, it's just that it's beginning to make us yawn ever so slightly. And again, even if successful, simply tells us what we already know, that there's lots of con-men out there.

Now then, what I'm suggesting is that it's a far more interesting game when we are challenged with proving a positive. Even if the investigator is actually a cynic, it's just a far more interesting game and possess's far more marketing value. At worst it's called -'having fun' and at best... who knows? Many in here admit that they treated their own investigation as merely that, a game, yet received a few shocks and surprises along the way.
And let's be honest, although we might not know the exact methods for each one of, say, Derren Brown's effects, there exists in here a small army of people who could, if ever commissioned, present an exposure TV programme on such a person and effects. We don't because 'he is a member of the same army' and anyway, we simply do not do that.
Now I know exposing fake psychics is a different kettle of fish, all I'm saying is... it's just too easy to do. Randi, Mandi, Candi,... anyone can make anyone else look bad. That doesn't take any special talent in any way whatsoever.

Bobser.


Thank you Bobser!! excellent post.
James
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You're welcome James.
By the way I've always wanted to visit Taiwan. Do you think you could get me any gigs there?

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And let's be honest, although we might not know the exact methods for each one of, say, Derren Brown's effects, there exists in here a small army of people who could, if ever commissioned, present an exposure TV programme on such a person and effects. We don't because 'he is a member of the same army' and anyway, we simply do not do that.
Now I know exposing fake psychics is a different kettle of fish, all I'm saying is... it's just too easy to do. Randi, Mandi, Candi,... anyone can make anyone else look bad. That doesn't take any special talent in any way whatsoever.

Bobser.


Thank you Bobser!! excellent post.
James


Yes, quite right. I am not a soldier myself in this army (although I'm one hell of a second-rate hobbyist), but do we all remember the TV series of the masked magician?? -Revealing methods to perform some of David Blaine's most elusive effects. I think I'm one of about 4 Brits that likes Blaine & what a dissappointing programme, from the magician's POV. Pasq.
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You're welcome James.
By the way I've always wanted to visit Taiwan. Do you think you could get me any gigs there?

Bobser.


Sure Bobser! Bring your pipes and come play. Taiwanese love folk music <lol>
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James, how did you know I was a plumber?

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If you wanna see a funny Acorah goof,check out
http://www.randi.org/jr/2006-02/021006busted.html
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He's a complete charlatan. And 'Most Haunted' too..don't get me started...Smile

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It’s embarrassing to watch.
Some will take him seriously, many don’t.
More power to his ‘haunted’ elbow ?
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Funniest Thing on Tv... Harry Hills TV Burp and his **** take out of Derek Acorah The UKs greatest medium ahemmmm.....
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Just watched the TV clip of Acorah doing hot reading its hilarious, how anyone can believe this fraud is genuine is beyond me, just shows how gullible certain people are I think.Smile Hi bob how are you mate, fixed any drains recently???
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Ok Ian, fair nuff, I'm going off him. But Watership Down, that's real... right?
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I think so.....Smile Does God exist ???
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Just had a peep at your new website Ian. keeeeerist but you're putting on weight!!!!!!
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