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pkg Inner circle The City of Ithobaal I son of Hiram I 1356 Posts |
DO NOT READ IF YOU ARE OFFENDED BY STORIES RELATED TO RELIGIONS...
THIS MIGHT OFFEND SOME OF YOU! DO NOT READ IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED.... YOU'VE BEEN WARNED! AND PLEASE DO NOT ATTACK ME...U'VE BEEN WARNED. here it goes... the early christians around here in the middle east were wandering the lands, preaching and performing miracles in a land where paganism ruled, where demons and djinns ruled the mountains and deserts. black magick ruled this part of the world... after a long journey, a group of monks arrived to this small coastal city, Botrys - meaning the City of Wine, built thousands of years ago by Jezebel daughter of King Ethbaal of the Phoenicians. This city looked so peaceful yet an air of evil could be felt all around. they started preaching, defying the energy that was draining their lives away...people got hungry, so to feed them, they took bread and fish, just as their lord jesus did, and started passing around, one loaf of bread kept multiplying, till this man, with a weird ancient ring on his finger, reached to take a loaf a bread, his hand caught fire out of nowhere, and the bread turned into a stone... the monks and preachers were tongue tied, blind and totally confused as they ran around and ran into each other and simply disappeared into the thin air.... this very ring, has been passed from generation to generation for tens of thousands of years, to a special guardian who can tame the evil forces. it cant stand the positive energy, so it always disappears from an open palm, only to reappear in this box, where only true beleivers can see it.... (as always, excuse the translation from lebanese to english and the loss of "meaningful expressions") a variation to it, is he reaches to take a fish from a bowl, fire, and all the fish turn into spiders/scorpions (EXTREMELY STRONG AND DANGEROUS IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT U ARE DOING! I don't HOLD MYSELF RESPONSIBLE IF U HURT URSELF OR ANY OTHER PARTY WHEN ATTEMPTING THIS...I WASH MY HANDS...) ok guys...hit me up!
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ptbeast Special user Oregon 831 Posts |
As to the variation you could also have it turn to maggots (see Black Hart's Black Book for method). It is kind of gross, but safer than scorpion wrangling.
An interesting note, in the English translation (not sure how it comes out in Arabic), it is ambiguous whether the guardian and the true believers (and hence the mage, I assume) are good or evil. I.e. the guardian "tames" evil forces. To stop them? To control them? And true believers in what? Don't get me wrong, I actually like the ambiguity, I just found it interesting. Nice routine. Dave |
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pkg Inner circle The City of Ithobaal I son of Hiram I 1356 Posts |
Thanks dave!
tame here is controlling them (i have the ring, I made the bread/fish mutate with a blaze of fire...i can control the evil spirits/djinns). only people who truly beleives in the evil of jezebel (she built my city! ) and such will see the ring in the box. check ur pm
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Dropping out the adjectives, parochial view and blatant disregard for the civilizations involved, I find the story itself interesting.
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pkg Inner circle The City of Ithobaal I son of Hiram I 1356 Posts |
That's why I had a warning...
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
PKG, I like the story. I simply feel no need to pander to some serious European perspective that is both erroneous and alien to the place discussed.
I bet the story would work as well when the characters are not misrepresented. The early Chirstians were Roman subjects and the middle east gave rise to several theocratic civilizations. The law and the religion were one-and-the same there. And several times groups came to conflict.
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pkg Inner circle The City of Ithobaal I son of Hiram I 1356 Posts |
"And several times groups came to conflict."
I live in lebanon, it was a daily bread for the past 30 years.... I just felt like sharing something that is hard hitting around here, and once it's shared, it's for everyone to use, modify to their likings...i get inspired by some stories around here that don't mean anything to me (cultural wise etc...) but still I find them intringuing and extremely useful. I don't expect anyone to use the same story line at all, I just shared how I used three small easy n quick effects along with a story.... for my dear african magicians... change the characters and use something connected to zulu. for my dear european friends...portuguese, you can use something related to the goddess "trebraruna" or the cult of "ataegina". scandinavians you've got your vikings, british you've got your warlocks and witchcraft... americans you've got the indian tribes... everybody happy now?
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
PKG, I understood the story when you first posted it. I like it. I believe it will transplant and communicate well in almost any context where the audience knows what it is to be invaded and.or to attempt to bring one's culture to others only to meet resistance.
Any chance of replanting the cedars? or the orange groves and forests of date trees there? Or perhaps to bring back those stories?
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Dan Mindo Regular user Chicago 125 Posts |
Not being from the region, I can only make assumptions. I would assume this will play well. I think it has great power. I wish you the best with it.
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sinnead zenun Elite user Mt. Makiling 408 Posts |
Very brave pkg
it was funny that early christians considered ancient religions as evil. and insist that they are correct... well the ancient ring did prove something keep on sharing.... |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Sinnead, you do know that the practice of demonization, then absorbing some cultural elements in order to convert the locals did not stop way back then.
Back to the story, I wonder if the old tale about a thing being good or bad might be brought into play here. What was given as "good" becomes what seems "bad". What if the thing that became "bad" was exactly what the locals needed for some other purpose? The moldy bread from which was later found antibiotics, that kind of thing.
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pkg Inner circle The City of Ithobaal I son of Hiram I 1356 Posts |
Well try to look at it this way....a message is being sent....there are good and evil depending on how you look at things...
what might be evil for some can be considered good for others and vice versa... I live in a place where religion, mysticism are like daily bread...yezidis are still widely spread around here, pagans in the arabian sahara are still wandering around...people still look around in the mountains around here for "signs and engravings" left by old monks/mages/whoever... they have purifiying rituals to dig out the gold...(and weird enough they do find gold...) and nothing hits stronger around here like "religious" stories. every single person has "mystic" story to tell you about, of all ages. and everybody swears it's true...how a sheikh invocated a djinn, how a priest tamed the devil, how a kid was killed when a priest was performing some rituals... my story hit hard. Some of the spectators got offended in a way, some were shocked cuz they hear stories but never saw anything...i am not preaching against christianity here (I myself am a born catholic...) I just took what hits REALLY hard around here, and put it into a story...there are lots of ways to look at it. lots of conclusions...i simply love how vague it can be and how everyone has a different analysis of it....call me sadistic, I like playing with people's minds...
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
PLEASE, BY WHATEVER NAME OF THE MOST HOLY THAT YOU HOLD DEAR, PLEASE TAKE IT EASY WITH WORDS LIKE "PAGAN, DEMON, DEVIL, ...
Those are labels and corruptions of things that some people take as holy in their religions. I too like to play, just not with the few things people need to hold onto to get through the day.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Question for those who live in the area:
I heard that some old stones in Jerusalm have Egyptial Hieroglyphs on one side and more recent Hebrew on the other. IE that the stones from older temples and houses were used to build new ones. Is this true? Are there stones whose surfaces reflect the comings of new religions as they happened? I see the makigns of a story in such stones and wanted to ask about the facts first. :)
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Caleb Strange Special user Manchester UK 676 Posts |
Jonathan,
I don't know about the Middle East, but such Janus faced stones have cropped up in Chester, here in the UK, most famously late in the 19th Century: hundreds of pagan Roman altar stones were found at that time incorporated in the city walls and also in the Cathedral. And some of these stones were recarved for later use. One, for instance, has a rude cross on one side, and the inscription 'To the god Mars, the preserver' on the underside. Kind of like those layers of continuing use that underpin several Medieval Cathedrals... Also, there's this story told of Chester's monks, which indirectly provides evidence of this pragmatic adaptation: "In the 12th-Century, on summer’s days, the monks of St. Werburgh’s Abbey, now Chester Cathedral, would climb to the top of the tower so that they could see the dried grass lines outside the city, that marked the location of buried Roman foundations. Now, they didn’t make this climb for the exercise or out of academic interest; these thrifty fellows were after a supply of cheap, recyclable building materials – ready-dressed stones that could be dug up, for free, from just below the surface of their fields." Regards, Caleb Strange.
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MattTheKnife Veteran user 356 Posts |
Pkg,
Well whatever anybody else says- I loved it! Great stuff. Thanks for sharing it! Sometimes it's a lot of fun to mix magic and religion. This can sometimes upset some people but then I suppose that they don't need to do it. I really hope that everybody keeps ones like these coming! And pkg- if there are ever anymore that you're willing to share but worried about posting (due to content and such) then please know that I'm always interested and you should feel free to PM me. Cheers, -Matt (TK) |
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pkg Inner circle The City of Ithobaal I son of Hiram I 1356 Posts |
Thanks everybody who is supportive and non supportive for that matter, you just keep on pushing me forward to come up with some "harsher/harder..." stories! and my big brother/mentor/source of inspiration GEDE!
whenever I can share some of my stuff, I wont hesitate... a priest of our local parish(??) saw me do it, he wants me to perform to a group, just to emphasize that "evil" is still around and more praying should be done...turned the offer down, but just proved that open minded persons can take whatever comes their way and see it from a different perspective... as gede says...VIVA BIZARRE!
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Brother Kotah New user wWsconsin 45 Posts |
Re: scorpions:When purchased at a pet store, they have protective rubber end caps which you may place over the stinger. Much like fighting fire with fire, the sting of one scorpion may be neutralized by the sting ofa different scorpion;
or so I have been told. Disclaimers do apply, do NOT try this at home! KOTAH
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pkg Inner circle The City of Ithobaal I son of Hiram I 1356 Posts |
Or if u've been to africa and met some "marabou" you surely know or have the "stone". it's actually made from grinded bones and some secret ingredient....if a scorpion stings or a snake bites, all you have to do is put the "stone" on the wound and you are pretty much safe and out of harm! and just dip it in milk overnight and it's good to use all over again...and IT WORKS! (this is no BS!)
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