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Bob Johnston
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Jeff:
Trust me, it means nothing.
I always carry a tt in my pocket (in one form or another) and am frequently fooled by a magician in the shop that is using a tt (in one form or another) to demonstrate a trick. I often do not catch it. After all there are many ways to vanish something.

Last week a magician was in the shop “wearing” a $1700.00 hold out (a device), and did a coin vanish. I thought he used a tt.

Exposure is over rated by most magicians. I object strongly to exposure, but not because it hurts magicians, but because it shows disrespect for the people that have worked hard to protect the secret.

Not only is it “over rated” but there are many “work arounds” that make the exposure truly unimportant.

For example:
Chris Capehart was in the shop, and told me about an incident with his linking rings, a “trick” often touted as being over exposed. As he was working through his routine a kids popped off and stated that the ring had an opening in it, and he saw it on a TV magic (exposure) show.

Chris, promptly said, “O, you mean this (pointing to the key ring) that is there for beginners, I don’t use it myself.” With that, Chris covered the key with his hand and did a crash link. The kid sat down.

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Bob,

That's a great story and a real reality check. It helps put things into perspective, doesn't it?
Thanks, Jeff
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I say find a better tip. I found the best soft tip I have ever seen in a book store... I am very tan and it matched perfectly.
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"It went up his sleeve" has been around for years.
Never really hurt anything.
There are so many ways to do so many things that the exposure from this could be used to let folks know that you are a "real" magician.
My first hank appearance and disapearance was done for several years before I ever had any kind of vernet. The only thing that a tt was good for was vanishing lit cigarettes.
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The thumbtip is only as powerful as the one who wields it.
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Just to add...

Blackstone used to use a silver thumb tip. That's right, Sterling Silver. If you use it correctly, it will never be seen. I've seen some horrible looking thumb tips, but in the right hands you couldn't see them with a slow-motion camera. I've seen some African American magicians use "white' thumb tips. They're never caught because they know how to handle such a prop.
One more thing... If your thumb tip is going passed the cuticle... it's on wrong. Find a different size if you have trouble. Otherwise you start to lose space and it becomes a rubber thumb, not a thumb TIP! I recommend the Jap Tip. They'll never crack and look great! I still use my first one and it's 6 years old. Hope this helps!
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On 2006-12-14 13:17, Dynomite Magic wrote:
Blackstone used to use a silver thumb tip. That's right, Sterling Silver.


Where did you hear this? Perhaps you meant Cal Emmett? He used a polished aluminum TT.

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On 2006-12-14 13:17, Dynomite Magic wrote:

One more thing... If your thumb tip is going passed the cuticle... it's on wrong.



This is not necessarily correct either.

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Yay, Josh!



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On 2006-12-14 13:17, Dynomite Magic wrote:
Just to add...

Blackstone used to use a silver thumb tip. That's right, Sterling Silver.



Agreed with everything else you said, going to ask Photius to confirm the TT for his uncle though.
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If your thumb nail is short from tip to cuticle you may want one that fits deeper. If you can get your entire thumb in all the way, and still use it effectively to produce an effect, it is not on wrong. It may be different than how some people use it, but it is not wrong.

Other than that, the comment about Blackstone and the fact that I've never used a Jap Tip, I do agree.
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But if you do want to paint the thumb tip a more natural color, Tarbell suggests Japan paint (whatever that is).
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On 2005-10-15 17:22, Wellington wrote:

I use tt’s and Dlites all day in the shop and never get burned. The same thing goes for linking rings.

This is much to- do about nothing.
Bob


I also use my TT nearly every single day in casual, public locations and never get caught. I use one EVERY time I perform; regardless of where I am or who my audience is. And as much as other magicians shun them, I absolutely LOVE the D'Lites. My blue ones are MUCH darker than my natural skin tone and I would think their existence has been over-exposed. However, I never get caught using the D'Lites and I use them ALL THE TIME in front of large groups of people of all ages. I don't get caught, but I get A LOT of "how is he doing that" comments and a lot of wide-eyed, gasping responses.
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On 2005-10-10 12:10, howdoidisconnect wrote:
Ok so I have got a soft thumb tip, and I have a question. The tip will only go down as far as my knuckle on my thumb, which extend the thumb tip to the lengh of the first finger. Is this normal?


Generally speaking, the TT should be worn so that it just covers the nail on the thumb. You can take it as far as the top of the knuckle if you don't need as much load space or need a tighter fit. But generally, if it rests just under the nail, you're good-to-go!
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And before anyone goes and uses flourescent orange or shiny metallic TT..those stories are a bit exagerated and overrated. I have seen a few magicians burned by my laymen friends who would be too polite to say anything to anyone but myself. It is important to use a TT that fits properly and matches well in color...IMHO.
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I say use a luminescent TT. Makes it easier for those of us who do it right with a good one.
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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See I use a flesh colored one, I don't use a green one. I challenge anyone who espouses that tired old saying to actually try a green TT without hiding one hand behind their back and get away with it.
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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AND NOW...
-Back to the Blackstone question-

A friend of mine new Harry Blackstone, and during one of Blackstone's shows the lighting operator forgot to cut the spotlight when turning on the backlight. The silver from the TT could be seen from my friends seat. After the show he asked Harry about the tip. Blackstone confirmed that it was a Sterling Silver TT.

-And the Cuticle Thing-

If you know what "TT" stands for, you know that the second "T" stands for tip.
My point is simply this. It's designed to be worn on the tip (as the name of the prop suggests) so I (and every respected professional I have ever spoken with) recommend using it on the tip of the f****r.

I hope this clears things up!
Jeff
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Try submerging the tip in boiling water. Then fit/mold around a broom handle. Cure using cold water but do not remove broom handle until cooled. This method works on Vernets. If you can stand the heat you can use your thumb instead of the broom handle. With this said don't stick your thumb in the boiling water. For color you might search latex flesh tones like make-up artists use.
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Jeff, it clears something up for me. But probably not what you were trying to clear up. Thanks, I enjoyed your explanations!

BTW I'll have to try that f****r thing with a PK effect or Jaxon's thumb trick. Smile
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TTs come in different sizes and materials, and different shades of plastic. If you have a brick-and-mortar magic shop near you, they will probably have several sizes and types you can try on.

Back when TTs were made of sheet brass or aluminum, you could paint them whatever color you wanted. Jap paint was some kind of cheap paint that had good adhering qualities for sheet metal, I guess, I have seen it in a number of old magic books.

Scotty York once told me he used theatrical makeup to make his TT a better match for his hands, but it sounds nasty and messy to me, if you have to carry it in your pocket (Scotty is one of the world's great Magic Bartenders, and frequently works with a sort of apron with pockets, sort of like a carpenter's nail apron, so staining his clothes may not be an issue)

Phil Thomas (The legendary Baltimore magic dealer, not the one who's a forum member) used to demo a fire engine red TT to prove the point that it was possible to use one and never have it seen, and this was NOT an exagerration. I still prefer my TT to be unobtrusive though, because its one less thing to worry about.

Sure the Klutz book exposed the TT widely, but the only thing layman know is that you can vanish a silk with it. You can still use it for almost anything else and they never make the connection. The Salt Trick, Billet Switches, switching or vanishing a bill, whatever. Get a copy of Milbourne Christopher's "50 Tricks with a TT" and I promise you will find stuff in there that will blow the Klutz crowd's doors off.
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