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berseus
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I use the pocket pocket a bit. It does not hold as much as apparantly the Klamm one (which I have not seen) but it is made for the trouser pocket and has some good uses.

The best use I find for it is you can have billswitch set up for different denominations and still keep track of the different setups even though they are all in the same trouser pocket. The pocket pocket also holds these "setups" in a perfect position for picking them up quickly without any hassle.

Mr Andrews came up with the pocket pocket since he lives in Hawaii and because of the heat works without a jacket.
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I'm dumb. I don't see how the Klamm pocket can turn one pocket into 17 different pockets. A pocket can't even hold 17 different things? Can someone describe how this actually works?

Does it have to be used in a jacket? What about pants or other clothes?

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Sorry to ask but where can I buy this Klamm pocket organizer over the internet? It must be good.

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Their site:

http://www.klamm-magic.com/

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One thing, does the Klamm organiser not make the side of your Jacket sag? The thing I hate is having bulges in pockets, especially jacket pockets as it makes it sag and look really wrong.

Ideally I would like one that fits on a belt, at the back so it's out of view, but can hold several decks, coins, sponges, and the usual rope etc. Any ideas?

I still don't understand how the pocket can hold so much in one pocket, surely you have a HUGE bulge? Can this be fitted onto a belt?

With the Klamm organiser do you not have a huge bulge on your jacket pocket?

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I recently purchased 2 of Carl Andrew's Pocket Pockets and have been very pleased with them. I usually do not wear a jacket so it was very nice to see something as intelligently conceived as these!
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I just ordered two Klamm Organizers. Seems likes a good deal for the price.
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It takes a little common sense here. If you put billiard or bowling balls in the Pocket organizers, there will be a bulge! Flat objects, like coins and cards, don't add much bulge. A few small objects like TT or knives and you have a slight bulge.

Also, the type of pants matter. Tight jeans, no way! Standard dress slacks, A-OK. I figure if I can get a stainless steel(heavy) .38 caliber revolver (bulky) in a holster (even more bulky) without an apparent bulge, these organizers ought to work just fine. And with the extra baggy clothes worn by the younger generation, I bet you could carry a bowling ball!

Basically, they keep things from getting tangled with other things. It is easier to get what you want without a lot of fumbling.

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Did anyone notice that the Klamm site has Black and White (Surprise) for $8! Must be a knockoff, but would be curious to know. I dropped them an email to ask.

Klamm replied about Black and White as follows:

Thanks for asking!

You are right. The one we carry is the plastic model. The quality is not
too bad, or we would not carry it, but it is not the best.
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What's "Black and White".

Anyway... I now have both the Klamm pocket organizer and the Carl Andrews pocket pocket.

Now I just need to learn to work with them.

I'm happy with both.
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On 2004-04-14 19:23, Frank Starsini wrote:
What's "Black and White".

Anyway, I now have both the Klamm pocket organizer and the Carl Andrews pocket pocket.

Now I just need to learn to work with them.

I'm happy with both.


Black and White Surprise---two poker chips, one black, one white change hands then change to 4 different colors. It is self-contained. Cute, but short. The brass ones go for about $45.

I just ordered the Klamm and the Pocket Pocket too. I look forward to playing with them.
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Frank,
Are you having trouble w/ the organizer? What kind of difficulty are you having? Every one on this thread is saying how great they are, I was about to order two of each. (save on shipping Smile

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They are great. I'm not having a problem with them.
They are simple yet effective.
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Could somebody post a picture of the different organizer. I have seen the only a picture of the Pro-Carrier. And is the pro carrier worth $20.00 ??


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I agree .. I would like to see pics of these organizers. I hate to buy something I haven't even seen a pic of. The joys of being more than 3 hours from the closest magic shop. I do have Joshua Jay's pro carrier. It doesn't carry as much as some other belt packs I have seen, but it looks tons better. You don't look like you have your batman utility belt on while wearing it. It has a zippered pouch for coins, 2 different arears for packet tricks, and room for a full deck with card guard, and also a clear pouch you can have your business card showing through and hold extra cards.
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Themeecer,

Thanks for reviving this thread, otherwise I'd never have seen it. I need to buy & try out a couple of these coat/trouser/or belt-based organizational solutions. I'm tired of my card decks getting mangled in the bottom of my briefcase and, likewise, all my other small props scratching against each other in my pockets.
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Here's a variation of something I've been playing with.
Holds cards, coins, and is big enough to hold ninja rings as well.
A few spongeballs, a silk and TT. Small things like that.

http://www.theambitiouscard.com/custom/f......mall.jpg

Goes on the belt.
A strolling pouch. The real thing will not have velcro.
I hate velcro. It will also come up to the height of the rings.

I personally use something much larger but it seems like a useful size.
Something to consider.

I did buy a JoshJay pouch before. It holds very little and the zipper broke before I ever even tried it in performance. Probably a fluke.
So, I never really gave it the testing it deserved.

The pocket pocket is something completely different. I have that too and never quite got used to it but it's good for organizing things inside a coat pocket.


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Is this something you sell now Frank or are making?

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I've taken what you see and made it taller, to cover the rings.
A touch wider to accommodate a few more props. The coin pocket
will have a flap. Not wide open.

From what I can tell, the price will be around $45.

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So Frank,

w/o the vecro are you going with a loose flap (my preference), or a button of some sort?

Also, how are you attaching to the belt? It'd be nice to have something you don't have to take your belt off to take the pouch on or off. Just some thoughts.

I like your design.

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