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jmikemagic
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Hello,

I hope I am posting this to the correct forum. I remember seeing an ad Magic magazine about a year ago for the stool gag where the seat appears to drop and when the performer stands up the shaft of the stool is seen sticking up through the seat. It wasn't the Dick Stoner stool, this was a smaller stool and was only about $400 if I remember correctly. Any help on tracking this down would be greatly appreciated.

Also if anyone knows the origin of this effect that would be appreciated too.

Thanks
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It was Called the King Chair , it was limited in numbers
at the time.
Hocus Pocus did have a few , check with Them.
There was also an add in Magic magazine with the makers
web site , again worth checking out.

happy hunting
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Dick Stoner invented this version. This is just a cheap copy.
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Dick Stoner did make a good version of this but did he invent it? John Farentino and Howard Bamman both did this years ago.

Not trying to start a fight , I honestly do not know. I know that these guys did this before I ever saw Dick do it. And that was about 10 years prior or more.

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I saw John Ferentino performing this back in the early 80's. Dick Stoner's version is very nice and well built, but came much later.
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I thought J.C Doty invented it..And used it in his drunk act...Cordially,Howard
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Doty might have invented. A very creative guy. I also think Howard Bamman did it prior to John Ferentinto.

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This was an old English music hall gag. Dick Stoner adapted the blank gun blanks that fire when the action happens. He is not claiming inventing the effect.

Howard Bamman's model was a wood stool.
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Dick Stoner did inform me he researched this by magicians in the know before manufacturing this unique comdey item. Many professionals have purchased his model and send Dick raving results of their use of this prop.

His bar stool is made of chrome and leather-like seat. If you can use a good comedy prop in your show consider the use this very visual gag, with sound effects!
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I believe the English prop maker, Yimka, was the creator and sold them throught Harry Stanley's Unique Studio. I wish I had gotten one. Bamman's was probably the best on ever made.
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J.C. Doty.

Period. End of sentence.
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Billy McComb made one that required no gimmicked stool...just a phone book. How do I know...I saw him do it at Abbott's years ago. I forgot about it until one just sold on Ebay. It was the same effect but a lot more practical than carrying around a stool.

And this is said not to take one thing away from JC....the man is a genius in many, many ways.

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Richard, you are right about Billy McComb's model, Abbott's even made and sold the effect after Billy's appearence at the Abbott's Magic Get-Together that year.

Billy McComb's not exactly the same effect as a broken stool haveing a piece of the stool penetrate the seat. With Billy's, when he got off the stool a sound was heard, when Billy looked at the telephone book, a rod was sticking up out of center of the book. Billy then looked up at the stage rafters, conveying that the rod dropped from the ceiling.

J.C. Doty and Yamka may have made a model, but he did not invent the idea. Sorry, it is older then all of you guys.

I really wish people would stop assuming the person they first seen do something is the person that invented it.
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I can't imagine a more tasteless prop. Unless you're doing it in a bar for a bunch of drunk military or frat types... this is about as offensive as it gets. I'm sure the people that own this also perform the bra or underwear trick, and use the sponge dong in their closeup act.
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Perfect for a comedy club........

Ask John Farentino Comedy Magician
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I saw John Farentino do this.. at Tannen's Magic Camp back in the early 80's. The world is a different place.. and though I laughed at the time.. I would find it tasteless now.

My friends know me as someone who is NEARLY impossible to offend... and I find this prop in incredibly poor taste.

PS.. the 80's, as much as many magicians would like it to return in both prop design and wardrobe... was 30 years ago.
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I’ve seen Michael exposed to the most tasteless, revolting, disgusting, inappropriate things possible, and he is indeed unfazed. If he’s offended then there’s something offensive here.
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It's classic OTT Schadenfreude...like seeing someone slip on a banana skin only more ..."intimate".
I've seen this used in a few different settings and although people might be disgusted, they're still laughing!
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My unbreakable rule:
“If it belongs in a bathroom or uses a private orifice it does not belong on stage.”
You have the right to disagree.

However ask yourself:
“Though this particular audience laughed, but would they still hire me for their corporate business gig or their mother’s anniversary party?”
Probably not.

Hearing a “laugh” does not necessarily translate into entertainment or good magic or a good show. Sometimes we mistake a nervous or polite laugh or peer pressure for a positive reaction.

Your reputation is your most prized possession as an entertainer.
Do you really want to be perceived as nasty or tasteless.
Yes, there are always exceptions, a few Vegas headliners have built a career on crude behavior, but chances are you’re not in their league.

My two-cents,
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