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MAGICBYTIM
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How do you determine what to charge for travel. I have been doing a lot more traveling lately and I have been charging a flat rate for travel depending on miles away.

How do you charge for travel:
miles, time, both, etc.
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For a semi local show (a.k.a. more than 25 miles, but less than 50 miles away) I charge an additional $50.00. It then goes up in $50.00 increments for every 25 miles in whole or in part all the way up to 100 miles. If it is any more than that and I am not on an actual tour (hitting stops along the way) I charge $1.00 per mile after the $150.00 hundred mile charge.

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I charge what it costs me. I keep the recipts for airlines, hotel, cabs.
If I am driving, gas, tolls, etc.
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Have abig map with circles on it on your wall- I think Magic4u does this as well

you circle ever 25 Miles or so

it just gives you a general idea of how long it's gonna take.

I charge what it cost me too- but you never know until you travel- Experience helps here you estimate to start off with and then after you have performed at a place you know low much it costs to get there
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I agree with the charge for cost but what about your time. I drive to all of my gigs for the most part. Some as far away as 4 hours. That is an additional 8 hours of my time. It is hard to get an extra couple of hundred dollars for my time. I already have my show price where it needs to be.

Thanks for the advice so far. I have not done the map thing yet but that is something I am looking into.
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Charge what it costs you is a great idea. Seems kind of self explanitory to me.

BUT if you are in the habit of doing more than one show at more than one location in a day, you may have to charge if you have to travel so far that you can't possibly do the second slot. Then you have to charge to compensate that show.

Make sure at all costs you end up even at the end of the transaction.
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Why should someone on the other side of town have to pay more for your act?

The other approach to consider is to charge a appropriate fee for your services and absorb any travel costs in that one fee. It will even out over time. Sometimes you'll make more, sometimes a little less. It will also have the benefit of pushing your fee level up, which is always a good thing.

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I live on Long Island New York, if I do a gig in Chicago, I have to charge expenses. I don't get greedy, I keep it down to a minimum.

If I do a show that requires paying tolls and parking charges, etc., the client understands that they have to pay extra. It is either that or raise my fee.

A magician I know was asked to perform his stage act at a Bar Mitzvah. They wanted zig zag, sawn in half, etc. The gig was in Hotel in Manhattan. It cost him the amount he was getting paid to rent a truck, park, pay people to unload and deliver the props, etc.

In my book he lost money. I know we love to perform and we get paid to do what we love and we would do it for free. But if you are doing this for a living, you have to charge expenses when they become higher than normal.
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I mentioned my semi-local shows and how I handle it if I am touring, but I do agree with charging what it costs you when I have to fly. For example, I do a ton of corporate work where I fly in for a day or two (sometimes longer depending on what exactly the corporation wants). I charge them my flat rate plus my airfare, hotel, rental car or car service and my business expenses ie.(phone, internet, fax, etc......). I have yet to have any problem with this, but granted I do work for some pretty major corporations. The one that I work for the most being TASER International (the stun gun that cops use) in Scottsdale, AZ.

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People pay what they pay. If they live across town then they pay if that is the scale set out by the performer.

I do 95% of my work over 200 miles from home so setting travel fees for me is a pretty simple matter. I could NEVER imagine a slideing scale, with different names to each bracket. Sounds overwhelming to me personally,, but whatever works works for each of us.
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I'm not sure if it is the same in other parts of the world, but here in the UK the Inland Revenue (Tax Office) allow a corporate allowance of 45p per mile for travel expenses.

As this is a universal figure in business here in the UK it is more readily accepted by corporate bookers when negotiating your fee.

I'm pretty sure that other countries must have a similar allowance rate that you can use.

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From my post earlier


Don't break up your price proposal for the client

simply give them the total cost of each packge.

I would suggest not adding costs to the travel like some people do

Similar to when you buy products online and the shop adds costs to the postal delivery- This is bad and no one likes it.

so be honest and work out

1: what you want to make from the show
2: How much it will cost to get to the venue


and then add it together.

when I do shows in the Sydney region- they are pretty much all the same price
but a show down in Melbourne costs more- not so much only for the transport- but because of the fact that I may have to spend a night there and whilst the company usually pays for acomodation- they are paying extra for my time- Opportunity costs- the time spent in melbourne not performing is time not performing elsewhere
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I agree....no matter WHAT the gig is and where it is I always include ONE fee. If they KNOW I will have travel expenses (.e.g overseas or interstate) I state after the fee (This fee includes all travel, administration, tax and other expenses)
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If I have to fly out- take the flight charge and add $400 (I despise flying and it depends how long I'll be up in the air.) If it's outside my hometown radius of 20 miles- add $45 travel charge. If I take the train- add $150 (pending train duration.) All is tacked on with the performance fee. It all depends on what mood I'm in. But normally that's an estimated figure.

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If I have to fly somewhere, I tell the client that they have to cover the flight to and from as part of my price. That's the easiest way to handle it. As I work mainly for corporate customers, this is something that they do for their sales reps anyway, so it's not much of a reach for them.

Fortunately, my act packs into a suitcase, so I do not run into massive shipping costs.

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