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Professor Piper
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I just got Bobo's book...116 Coin Sleights and 236 Coin Tricks...

I'm gonna be REAL busy for a while...

Any particular favorites from this tome to recommend I try out first? (Aside from all the basics I have to learn that is...)

On another coin magic note...I'm finding it difficult to find affordable Morgan Silver Dollars...Anyone have a good source that isn't like $50 a coin?

Thanks...

Off to the coins I go!!

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My modest piece of advice would be to get first Roth's "Expert Coin Magic Made Easy" vol.1-3 before attempting to study Bobo. I think that learning sleights from a book is the best way to develop bad habits. And everybody knows by experience that bad habits are hard to kick.

I know many will disagree with the above, and I respect that. It is just my personal opinion.

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Well, I agree with you Phedon. I have David Roth's video's, and would recommend the same thing. Studying David Roth's stuff; Michael Ammar's stuff, and Michael Rubinsteins, to me is about the best place for a beginner or amateur to begin, even before trying to follow books. I did buy Bobo's years before I bought any video's, only because at the time video's hadn't even been invented yet.

Hope this helps Prof. Piper...

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Wow...

More stuff to add to my Christmas list!!

All I know is I'm gonna be busy for a while...Thanks for the info guys, I do appreciate it!

I have access to a few of Ammar's videos, I'll give them a look first, then see if I can't find the Roth next.

Question, is the Rubenstein you are refering to also a Juggler? There is an insanely difficult 3b patterned named "Rubensteins' Revenge" out there...I mastered it a few months ago and LOVE it!

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Just a random question, but are the "Expert Coin Magic Made Easy" series completely gaff free?
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On 2005-10-26 23:50, Professor Piper wrote:
Any particular favorites from this tome to recommend I try out first? (Aside from all the basics I have to learn that is...)


I've been performing The Gadabout Coins for more years than I can remember. With the right approach it always gets very good audience reactions.

On top of that, Ron Bauer has released "Gadabout Coins Revisited", which has received rave reviews. You can look at this here: http://www.thinklikeaconjurer.com/all24r......over.htm

From a commercial point of view, for me this one routine has repaid the cost of the book (and the hours spent trying to master the routine) many times over.

Have fun.

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It is a great book but I also agree that it is better to see someone perform these moves. I was very blessed to be taught by a great magician who was an excellent manipulator and he quickly fixed bad habits in his own way.
I do think though that learning from a book is better to stimulate creativity.
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On 2005-10-27 02:30, aka wrote:
Just a random question, but are the "Expert Coin Magic Made Easy" series completely gaff free?


Mostly gaff free yes...but there is at least one dvd in the series pertaining to special coins.

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Hi Professor Piper,

I started reading Bobo (haven't read it enterily yet, almost finishing) and then watched Roth's-Stone's-Ammar's videos (and others later). For me it was the best thing to do, cause I first got used to coin's handling and also to the conecept of coin magic itself and then I could understand and perform better the videos above. In any case, it generally depends on each person.

If you don't know any of these videos I'd suggest to watch David Roth's videos (expert coin magic) vol 1-3 first, cause' they teach you from the bases step by step and increases it difficulty during the teaching.

David Stone's videos (Basic coin magic vol 1-2) are also very good too and very easy to follow. There're tons of others and I'm sure you'll find more helpful advises here in the Café.

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Pablo and the rest...

Thanks so much for all the advice and suggestions...I'm going to have to go take out a loan to get all these videos!! (I'm starting to build my library anyway, so what the heck, right?)

I find it very encouraging and refreshing to have so much input from those who are working on the same things...Nice to have support, ya know?

I've been working the basic coin sleights (classic, finger, thumb, etc)...My only real hurdle so far is the fact that my hands are very muscular (from 28 years of Juggling), and I'm finding it difficult to hold the sleights with a natural look to my hand (due to the musculature)...

I'm guessing that continued practice will eventually aleviate this...(I try to have a coin -a half-dollar- classic palmed while doing other things, just to get the feel for it...

Any way, thanks agian...Any other suggestions are MOST welcome!

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Professor, and all others starting to explore Modern Coin Magic, you might want to drop by another section of the Café:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewf......9&16

I'm covering all of Bobo's, in depth, and thanks to my usual sense of industry, we're still in Chapter one. Now's a good time to climb aboard. Hope to see you there.
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Very useful section Curtis. I mean REALLY useful. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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Bobo's is a staple of any coin magic library, but I have to agree that it should be supplemented with the "EXPERT COIN MAGIC MADE EASY" DVDs, VOLUMES 1-3. The exact content of these 3 DVDs are available on a single DVD, which makes a much more convenient format. It's called "EXPERT COIN MAGIC MADE EASY, SPECIAL EDITION DVD".

I'm always going back to the Bobo book for the details.
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On 2005-10-27 16:20, Curtis Kam wrote:
Professor, and all others starting to explore Modern Coin Magic, you might want to drop by another section of the Café:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewf......9&16

I'm covering all of Bobo's, in depth, and thanks to my usual sense of industry, we're still in Chapter one. Now's a good time to climb aboard. Hope to see you there.


And, BTW..... I'm all over this! Great contribution Curtis!
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Thanks guys, it's always nice to meet both of my readers...
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Sorry Curtis, its at least up to three, your section is the only one I have read every post in.
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Hi, just checking in while on my European tour - PP, the only thing I ever juggled was my check book. I wasn't very good, because it kept bouncing.......But seriously though, the Encyclopedia of Coin Sleights DVD's teach 110 coin moves, and will help you find a techniques that suits you the best. Available at your local magic dealer, I just sold out of them in France - wish I brought more (sigh)!
Available at dealers EVERYWHERE - RUBINSTEIN COIN MAGIC- The biggest book on coin magic since Bobo's Modern Coin Magic, and the most important since David Roth's Expert Coin Magic! Hardbound, 500 pages, 20 chapters of state of the art coin magic illustrated with 930 crisp photos! A contribution chapter from over 20 of the world's top coin magicians! This will be the book against which all future books on coin magic will be measured! Already called a Modern Classic!!
And if anyone (USA ONLY) needs some of the coin stuff used in the book, shoot me an email at rubinsteindvm@aol.com as I have some limited supplies of coins and props used in the book.
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"On another coin magic note...I'm finding it difficult to find affordable Morgan Silver Dollars...Anyone have a good source that isn't like $50 a coin?"

Regarding your other question, a local coin store is worth checking out. Otherwise try Ebay. I got all my Morgans and Peace Dollars there averaging about $8 a coin (silver prices fluctutate). Very worn coins (soft) can be bought at bullion or melt down prices which may be cheaper. Do a search on Ebay for "US silver dollars, circulated" for low prices. Buying a roll or half roll is cheaper than one coin at a time because of shipping charges.
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There is a local shop here in Portland, it is called Columbia Coin Co. If you show the owner a coin trick, he gives you a discount on all of your coins. However, you live in the mid-west. So that may be difficult. If you want, see if you can contact them at http://www.columbiacoin.com
Let them know you are a magician and see if they will work with you.

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WOW...

Thanks for all the advice guys!

I hear all the time what a great place the Café is, and I whole-heartedly agree.

But it is the people that make it what it is...And you guys are solid.

Curtis...Make that 4 readers, I'm trying to read both (Bobo's book and your Threads) at the same time. A lot of the stuff is still a bit over my head, but I am no doubt learning this faster than I would on my own with just the book!

Michael...Nice to meet you....You share your name with another Rubinstein (he's a juggler though)...I love this pattern he developed for 3 Ball juggling. It's called Rubinstein's Revenge and it's a beauty ~Really fast and quite complicated~

Larry and Brian...Thanks for the tips on where to obtain coins. I was told today about a place that's relatively close (like 30 miles) that handles all variety of coins. They have the expensive non-circulated stuff as well as the not-so-expensive worn coins...I'm going to be checking them out next week.

Another good note, I may have found a good Mentor here...He's an all around great guy and Magician named Anthony Zappa...He has started helping me out and it's making a big difference in my performance.

Again, thanks for all the help!

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