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kramerica2010 Veteran user 329 Posts |
Why does everyone use weird half dollar coins and Johnsons and all those other weird coins instead of just regular quarters. They are normal everyday objects, not Morgans silver dollars. I think shells and flippers and all the other gaffs should be made for just regular quarters. That way we could borrow coins and add on the shell so we are being impromptu and using gaffs at the same time. By bringing out a little purse and using basically foreign coins to the specs will raise their sense of "I think those are fake coins." Why do magicians feel the need to use special coins?
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JTW Special user Florida 670 Posts |
Some of us that perform for larger groups use them for visibility issues. Personally I collect coins and the theme I use in my close-up show addresses why I use "weird" coins.
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kramerica2010 Veteran user 329 Posts |
I don't think using a coin 2cm bigger will help very much with vision though I do like the idea of using special coins you have collected.
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RP New user 78 Posts |
Johnson and others make gaffs out of regular quarters. In fact, they are even starting to make them into Euros. Pretty much every half/dollar gaff can be found in quarter size.
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
...except that quarters are from different US states and that can affect many routines as they look different, beyond just their dates, nowadays.
half dollars are easier to use for certain effects. silver dollars are easier to use for other effects. soft coins are easier for other effects. coins worth more money are interesting to look at, touch, feel, hold, and can help for intersting presentations. larger coins are more visible. I use quarters in some effects. They do have their place. There are nifty effects you can do with a handful of pocket change. I think You're on the right track tho.
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mike gallo Inner circle 1341 Posts |
I think shells and flippers and all the other gaffs should be made for just regular quarters. That way we could borrow coins and add on the shell so we are being impromptu and using gaffs at the same time.
Yep, we could do that...and one day while doing a paid gig...we have to abandon half the act cause no one has any pocket change to borrow from ! Mike |
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John Bowlin Special user Maryland 827 Posts |
Learn something about those old "weird" coins and you'll find that some other people take an interest as well.
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GeorgeSantos Inner circle San Diego, CA 1106 Posts |
Like what they said. VISIBILITY. I don't want my audience to have a hard time seeing things. It diminishes the entertainment because they are too focused on looking rather than enjoying the moment.
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TomKMagic Special user I tripped over 620 Posts |
To each his own.
I like to use large silver dollar coins because I have been accused of hiding quarters beween my fingers. I also do ungimmicked coin routines (for the most part), so using a larger, old coin is fine because I let them examine them all they want. There are routines in which I would use a quarter just because it might be a borrowed coin, but still... to each his own. |
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JTW Special user Florida 670 Posts |
A Silver Dollar is over a half inch larger than a quarter. That makes a lot of difference. I can use Silver Dollars for a group of 40 and they can see the coins clearly. If I used quarters I should forego using an actual coin because no one but those closest to me would see them. Wouldn't work for me.
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Brian Proctor Inner circle Somewhere 2323 Posts |
Because my hands are too large for quarters. I am thankful at one point in our history we had many types of silver dollars. Unfortunately our coinage just gets smaller and smaller as the generations pass by. In 50 years, how easy will it be to get a hold of Morgans or other types? I will get what I can now and use them for the rest of my life.
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ithomson Veteran user 330 Posts |
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On 2005-11-03 19:48, mike gallo wrote: Absolutely right ... never mind the unwanted dead time as customers rummage through their purses to find coins for you. And that is if they even have their purses with them, which isn't often in many formal functions. Ian |
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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts |
I am with te visability aspect as well. Since I started with Halfs I don't even feel right playing with quarters. With quarters usually do bending routines.
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info2victor Veteran user 337 Posts |
Well... for some sleight of hand techniques it's better to use coins with a larger size. To me half dollar is of the best size. But I'm sure some prefer other denominations or even currencies...
Actually I believe there are many users here who are not living in the states, so even they bring out quarters it will be wierd coins... Finally, there are tricks which can only be done using gaffs (well... perhaps with some extremely difficult sleights), which is made only in the form of certain denominations. So if someone wants to perform them, they have to cope with that... or learn tricks that doesn't require gaff.
It only takes a minute to learn how it is done, but takes a lifetime to learn how to do it.
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T. Joseph O'Malley Inner circle Canada 1937 Posts |
I see your point, but using old weird coins can be a useful thing in some routines, and can actually make more sense than using new coins such as quarters. One of the only coin tricks I perform is Ron Bauer's version of Gaddabout Coins, and based on one of the premises in the script, it is necessary to use coins that are at least a couple of generations old (the coins have been passed down to you by your family so using quarters made today would be wrong). And in this trick, the idea of using an antiquated little purse to carry the coins in actually makes sense too.
And - quarters are too small for most of us, I'd hazard. To small to work with, too small to be seen from a bit further back.
tjo'
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Conus Special user 657 Posts |
People love looking at (and examining) unusual coins. Such coins have visual appeal and add atmosphere to your material.
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mightyred75 New user 57 Posts |
Visibility is an issue, that is why I have just ordered half dollars. I am based in the UK and most circulation coins are either very slight and dismal in appearance (2p, 10p) or very bulky and ugly (£2 coin).
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
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On 2005-11-03 19:20, kramerica2010 wrote: Pretty much depends on context. If you are doing something that is supposedly impromptu, then we agree. If you are offering something special or performing at a more formal occasion where you are supposed to be there to offer magic, bring out the nice things.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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kramerica2010 Veteran user 329 Posts |
I see your points. Just makes sense to me to use regular coins. Though I should have done some research as to whether specs care aboot the difference.
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