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Our church is the main host for the movie. For those who don't know , it's a big Disney production release in Dec.
I'm thinking of putting together a short routine...anyone else doing something?
some tricks about good and evil....gluttony(turkish delights), cannot always believe what you see.

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I have thought about this a little bit myself. Maybe a two card transposition effect, showing how Edmund deserved death because he was a traitor, and how Aslan took his place, leaving Edmund free from the penalty he deserved. A very good gospel tie-in. If I think of more, I will write again.
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Matthew,
Nice idea. Thanks. The same can been done w/some silks as well.
I surprised that no one else on the MC has suggested or stated that they will be using this event to present?
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On Robert Neale's video he does an effect called (I think) Trapdoor which is simply a jumbo size version of the Wonderland bill. If you wanted to take the time to make the prop, you could draw a picture of the wardrobe on one side and a picture of Narnia on the other side. The patter could be about the spectators entering the world of Narnia. I am not sure what material he uses to make up the prop, but if you'd like I'll look it up.
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Almost any heavy stock material can be used to create the "window". Heavy transparent packing tape on both sides makes a decent, light use hinge. For heavier or frequent use, a black or clear (depending on the background Duct tape would probably work well.

Purchase the Wonderland bill video and you will learn how to create the Alice in Wonderland "gimmick" that could easily be modified to work as James Swaab mentioned.

I carry a wonderland bill in my wallet constantly, and perfrom it whenever the opportunity arises. I haven't done the larger sized version, but was impressed with the video that showed it.

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I'm going to peruse the book and find any and all impossible moments of magic from the book, to see what could be done on stage.

Healing cordial, the stone knife evaporating into thin air, the snow melting (snow or ice production), turkish delight production, Susan's horn calling help (maybe a lion image production after sounding a horn?), disappearing inside a wardrobe, using a stage assistant who falls asleep for the rigid chair effect while you play a pan flute (think Tumnus), Turning stone statues into real whatever (person, rabbit, dog, etc), make a table crack in half (like the stone table), much fertile ground.
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I never knew the name of the "Wonderland bill" before, what is the Alice in Wonderland effect?

A bit off topic, but I've made this prop out of 2 different colored paper that I glued together:

for red and White I use the scripture: for though your sins are as scarlet, they shall be white as snow

for black & white, I talke about how Jesus can cleanse us of our sin.

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In the craft stores, there is some foam sheets for doing cards, crafts, etc... I don't know the name, just that it is very plyable.

I have used it to talk about Jesus being the door, and if we hold onto the door, we find ourselves moved. (more to it, but that is the brief).

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This is almost as good as the potter books for creating effects around! break out your snow storms in china, cause it is always winter buit never christmas in narnia!
something simple after they go thru the wardrobe into the forest, the first thing they see are trees, the ole rolled up tube of paper that you turn into a tree!
as a side note(it still amazes me how strong of a reaction this simple newspaper effects gets, I used it in my library program and out of all the amazing magic I did this simple trick got the biggest ohhhhhhhhs and ahhhhhhhhhs, go figure)

how about a six card repeat made up so the cards have pictures of turkish delight on them
to illustrate the death and "rebirth" of aslan a simple torn and restored effect!
I am thinking on the lines of a smaller compact show here!
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John Long,

The Alice in Wonderland effect is one that uses a large version of the wonderland bill but made out of cardboard and large enough to be seen on stage, and the opening or door is on the one side and held by a spec, and the rest is folded a couple of different ways and unfolded, while the spectator still holds the door only to find that they are now on the other side of the board. So in concept, it is like Alice going down the rabbit hole.

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Thanks BroD.

I just saw Narnia this past weekend, so some of the other posts now make sense.

Narnia was entertaining, yet I did not find its Christian message very evident, other than a basic theme of good vs. evil. Not something that I would find as a springboard for spiritual conversation (as it seemed to be presented at local churches). Aslan's comment of even his life being governed by *magic* also seemed a bit odd(did I miss hear that?).
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John,

Aslan being executed then rising from the dead is heavily allegorical. Also, he did it in the stead of a "traitor", which can be thought of as all those who betrayed God and didn't believe in him. I find that Lewis and Adamson (the film's director) use the word magic to symbolize God and the Holy Trinity. I gave my life to Christ about three years ago. I also must say that to fully understand what Lewis was trying to do in Narnia, one should read his theological works. Mere Christianity is what made me become a Christian. I hope this helped.

Merry Christmas,
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On 2005-12-21 17:39, John Long wrote:
...Aslan's comment of even his life being governed by *magic* also seemed a bit odd(did I miss hear that?).

Indeed, but as has been said, CS Lewis spoke allegorically. In the book, the Witch appealed to "Deep Magic from the Dawn of Time", which demanded that a traitor die, or that one should take his place (ie, Romans 6:23 - The wages of Sin is death). She then killed Aslan to appease this "deep magic". However, Aslan rose according to the laws of the "DEEPER magic from BEFORE the Dawn of Time" - he says this magic was even engraved around the stone table (representing the Law, and demonstrating how the messianic delivery was prophesied through the Law). This "Deeper Magic" was the "magic" that allowed the legal loophole of the sinless sacrifice overcoming the law.

So, long story short, yes, Aslan speaks of "magic", but it is an allusion to the power of God, and the laws of the spiritual realm, both of which are very real. Hope that helps (indeed, this discussion could be a good one if performing magic alongside Narnia - make sure the audience understands the distinction!!)
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An add on to my previous post...

Ok, so I saw the movie for myself last night. Rather good actually! Just a final comment with regards to Aslan's comment about magic - Yes, I heard the moment where Aslan told Peter that every Narnian's destiny was "controlled" by magic, including his own. Having seen the point in the movie, I think it is fair to now conclude that this particular "magic" is simply the Will of the Father. Even Jesus submitted his will to that of the overruling authority, just as Aslan yielded to the "deep magic". Hope that helps. ;-)
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My wife went to see it over the holidays with some girl friends. She had never read the books so she felt the movie left a lot to be desired plot and motivation wise. She saw no point in the all the WWII footage at the beginning as it had absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the film. They didn't bring anything they learned from that segment into the story.
She was disturbed by the fact that everything was so accepted. the children fell into their roles as saviors of Narnia and everyone in Narnia accepted them in these roles with no question. But then that's typical of fantasy stories to begin with. She loved the Ice Queen and was secretly rooting for her to win as she was the far more intriguing and visually interesting character. But then a good villain character is usually more interesting than the hero. I was disappointed to learn that the Faun lost his waistcoat and only had a scarf.
My wife was overly amused by the children talking to the beavers while wearing fur coats and was waiting for dialouge along the lines of "Yes son of Adam this is. . . Wait, That's Mom!"
All in all she gave it a C+ and told me to wait till it came on cable to see.
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On 2005-12-27 10:58, Payne wrote:
My wife went to see it over the holidays with some girl friends. She had never read the books so she felt the movie left a lot to be desired plot and motivation wise. She saw no point in the all the WWII footage at the beginning as it had absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the film. They didn't bring anything they learned from that segment into the story.
She was disturbed by the fact that everything was so accepted. the children fell into their roles as saviors of Narnia and everyone in Narnia accepted them in these roles with no question. But then that's typical of fantasy stories to begin with. She loved the Ice Queen and was secretly rooting for her to win as she was the far more intriguing and visually interesting character. But then a good villain character is usually more interesting than the hero. I was disappointed to learn that the Faun lost his waistcoat and only had a scarf.
My wife was overly amused by the children talking to the beavers while wearing fur coats and was waiting for dialouge along the lines of "Yes son of Adam this is. . . Wait, That's Mom!"
All in all she gave it a C+ and told me to wait till it came on cable to see.


Hi Payne:

Please consider the following remarks:

The WW II footage explains why the children are sent out to the country to live at the Profesor's house (dealt with in 2 sentences in the book). It sets the story up. It also shows that the world was not as it was originally meant to be (as God originally created it). We find the same in Narnia. It had been winter for 100 years and never Christmas, and Narnia was not as it was meant to be. We also see that the children were sent away to get away from a war, but ironically, they end up in a war in Narnia.

One of the reasons that the children were accepted in their roles by the Narnians is because they were seen as the fulfillment of prophecy (the 2 sons of Adam and 2 daughters of Eve).

I agree with the assessment of the witch. I would think that there may be an Oscar nomination here.

I am not an expert in things Narnian, but I do not understand the remark about the waistcoat. I only remember Mr. Tumnus, the faun, having a scarf in the book, as he did in the movie.

Funny line about the fur coats!

Although your wife certainly knows your tastes better than I do, I say go see it on the big screen. If you like fantasy, I think you'll enjoy it.

Terry
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On 2005-12-27 18:01, Terry Holley wrote:

Although your wife certainly knows your tastes better than I do, I say go see it on the big screen. If you like fantasy, I think you'll enjoy it.

Terry


Actually no. Hate Elf and Fairy Fantasy and Elf and Fairy Fantasy with thinly veiled Christian overtones doubly so. Only made it through LOTR1 cause I fell asleep nine times in the theatre during the film. Got through LOTR2 cause it was on cable and I could get up and go do other things through the slow bits, which was 90 percent of the film. Vowed that nothing short of being granted Elven immortality would make me sit through the third so I have yet to see it, and most likely never will.
Don't see why you would need 20 minutes of WWII footage to explain why the children had to go to their uncles house. A two minute scene in the London Train Station most likely would have sufficed.
I really doubt that I could sit through Narnia in the theatre so I shan't waste my precious movie money on it. Casanova or the Producers are much higher on my Movie list at the moment and am upset that I missed going to see Jesus is Magic as it's come and gone already.
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IMO, the actress in the BBC version did a better turn as the White Witch -- perhaps because she reminded me of Anjelica Huston. Whatever the case, this "Chronicles" is the version the BBC would have made had they been better funded and had had access to better technology. Good, not great.
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Well, this is what makes a horse race, a difference of opinion.

The beavers talking nailed me so bad when I got home I expected my cats to talk to me!

No movie will ever do justice to the book. The simple truth is a screen play is less than 100 pages. The average book over 300. It just can't be done.

Finally a person's tastes, and their agendas, will color their opinions. I never got the Star War's thing. But that's me.

Bearback Mountain is a BAD movie, no matter who the love story is about...

...but you sure aren't hearing that, are you?

PS: I know the title of the movie, making a bad joke....
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Bearback Mountain is a BAD movie, no matter who the love story is about...

...but you sure aren't hearing that, are you?



Maybe because Art is subjective. Thus there are no bad movies, only movies that you like and movies that you don't. One man's BAD movie is another man's Masterpiece. No matter how trashy and horrible you might think a movie is, six months later it gets released on DVD and hundreds of thousands of people rent or purchase it.
Even flicks like Dukes of Hazard can be found in the video libraries of people across the land.
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