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TexasMagicman
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I need to add a few tricks to my coin routine. I got what I consider the best three, Hopping halves, Two coppers and a silver, And scotch and soda, and I got these down really well. I would really like a couple more good tricks to go with these but I need ones that do not require a table....everything thing needs to be out of pocket in hand performance. Are there any tricks that naturally go with these that I am missing? I am willing to spend the money and most importantly willing to put in the time...just not sure which way to go. Also I am new to this forum and really excited about being a part and hanging out with you guys.
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The effects you listed are gaffed tricks, are you looking to stick with gaffed effects or are you wanting to step up to sleights? If so, some of my favorite in the hands coin effects are any coins across using the goshman pinch (I cant think of the name, brain fart...), Daryl's 3 Fly (but I've heard Paul Wilson's is better), and a very well presented Hopping Half (which you've already listed). I've only been serious about coins for the past few months, so I may not be your best resource.
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...have you considered learning sleight of hand with coins?

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Jaz
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Bobo's "Modern Coin Magic" has a few.

Read about:
Larry Barnowsky's book "21st Century Coin Mechanics"
and
"Coin Man Walking" by Dan Watkins.

Both are members here.
TexasMagicman
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Yeah...i'm not against the slieghts...i have been working long and hard on them, my problem is this. I, of course bought the coin magic bible (Bobo) and I am working to profect my slights BUT I really have a tough time getting the words off the page and into practice. If I see the slieghts (a la DVD or lesson) I can pick it up pretty quick. I've gotten down a few of the very basic slieghts...but not comfortable enough with the advanced ones to perform them yet.
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Have a look at the Ron Bauer manuscript on Gadabout Coins. And if you already know how to use a holdout, treat that as the method for the ending. Smile
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If you want to learn from dvd, there is no better teacher than David Roth (this is evidenced by David's performances on the Coinvention dvd - among some of the greatest coin men alive, his performances stand out). If you progress through the dvd's, you will acquire more than enough sleights to keep you busy for years. Ian Kendall has a great CD-rom on basic coin sleights (I have a copy of this available if you are interested), Dan Watkins has a new dvd out, as do others. One of my favorite coin books of stand-up material is Doug Brewer's Unexpected Visitor. This small book is loaded with excellent, audience-tested material perfect for strolling, and I consider it one of the best values in coin magic. If you want another gaffed coin set, check out David Acer's Spare Change (available from Murphy's Magic, as well as others). But be warned, GOOD coin magic requires a lot of practice, and is only as entertaining as your presentation (see any of J.T.'s posts for more info on that). Best of luck -
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You asked for coin effects.-
a coins across. (either with a s**l* or Sankey/Wilsons)
copper/silver coins changing places.
Coin and silk effects (see Bobo)
Hanging coins
and loads more.

I've been vague because there are many routines.

If you have a table, add:-
a matrix and coins through table
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Tex, Welcome. This a great place. Enjoy!

As to your question, I would add to all the other suggestions, to pick up Jay Sankey's "Revolutionary Coin Magic" dvd. It's got some excellent coin tricks for uses like your's.

The gaff tricks you mention are wonderful, but like the fellows here advise, learn the sleights. Once you do, you can do all sorts of things without gaffs. For one, in Bobo's, learn "Sleeving." It's a wonderful method in vanishing and producing coins and works in all sorts of ways only held back by how quick your creativity can come up with things. With the sleights, you'll be able to do a lot with just regular coins. But if you like the gaff stuff, add "Dishonest Abe" to your packet, it's a real cutie-pie and pretty easy to do but powerful to the spec.

Once you progress a little bit further, try Justin Miller's "Silver Dream." It's a great presentation with 3 regular silver dollars, very powerful! To me, it's better than all the gaff stuff you mentioned. And since you like to practice, this is the trick for you. It's absolutely beautiful. Check it out here: http://www.closeupartist.com/silverdream.htm

Finally, you can also learn a lot right here, as you are among some talented people on this very forum in the ways of the coin. There are many to learn from, all helpful in different ways. Mr. Vinny is tremendous in his assistance to magicians in all sorts of closeup magic, particularly coins. He doesn't send you to go get a soda, he gives it to you himself. A great teacher and a wonderful guy. Oh, and he doesn't use gaffs, the guy is just good. But there are many here that will help you if you but ask. Enjoy and again, Welcome.
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Texas Magicman,

PM me and I will send you the handling of my "Not So Gaffless Hopping Halves"

Welcome to the Café!

Rannie
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aka The Manila Enforcer

PS take it from Backdoor, PM Vinny The Godfather as well.
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."

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Backdoor
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And take it from Rannie too, his stuff is killer! And his "Not So Gafless Hopping Halves" is pretty neat too. See, it's happening already.

Way ta go Rannie, my man.
-Only The Shadow Knows...Y'know?
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Howdy! Welcome to the Café! I definitely agree with backdoor that Rannie and Vinny are two of the many great guys that frequent this Café. I'm pretty sure you'll love Rannie's "Not so Gaffless Hopping Halves". I have used it in my close-up routine ever since I learned it in one of his lectures back in the Philippines.
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TexasMagicman
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Many thanks Rannie...very nice, I can't wait to get this routine going.
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And don't forget to check the Wizard, Mr. Vinny...He's got a million of them. And there's another guy here or 2 who have very nice "non-gaffed" versions of Scotch & Soda.

Hey, isn't Rannie's version of Hopping Halves pretty sweet? Toldya! Just get good at the routine and patter of it all and you'll have yourself something that people just love to see.
-Only The Shadow Knows...Y'know?
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