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Chris "linkster" Watson Special user England 564 Posts |
I performed some coin magic at a party the other weekend and got some pretty good reactions but at the end one of the guys at the party said..that was pretty cool...I know you can go down the magic shop and buy it for £20 but I still have no idea how you did it.
His sister buys a lot of packet tricks and he had assumed that the slight of hand stuff I'd been doing (One coin/ Spellbound stuff with ordinary English coins that I'd handed out for inspection)was just a bought trick. I just said thanks at the time and kept quiet...secretly thinking...yeah Bobo's was nearer £10...but the practice time involved..Hmmm! Then I thought...wait a minute that may actually be a compliment! He obviously hadn't seen anything and therefore he could only assume it was trick apparatus! So what do you guy's think compliment? Or shall I stick to self working magic in future .anyone else had similar reactions? Chris |
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Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
You say you used ordinary coins and one was inspected? Surely not both for Spellbound?
Anyway. His comment may have meant that he knows there's trick coins but since you used a regular, inspected coin he don't know how you did it. If so then it's a compliment. Just smile. |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Looks like you are letting one comment get to you. Just let it go. What you should have done is a trick for the guy. He was only trying to get 'close' to you and relate.
You could have said, "Oh, really, I did not know that the there was such a trick available." I think this just falls on your insecurties. Let it go! I once did several coin effects for a trade show, there was a guy who stood there and said, "I seen that before." To every trick, I did. No, it did not make me feel great, inside, but who knows what the guys motive was. Move on and entertain someone else. This brings to mind, are you presenting your effects, in a manner that is a challenge to the spectator or are you entertaining them. Remember, men like to figure out things and no one likes to be fooled. Just something to think about. Routining is important as well as presentation of the effect. |
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mike gallo Inner circle 1341 Posts |
Chris, that is what I would call a "left handed" compliment! Which, BTW...is a good thing!!!
Mike |
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Chris "linkster" Watson Special user England 564 Posts |
Wmhegbli
I was several pints too late for thinking too much about routining that night...just wanted to do some stuff where I didn't drop the coin. Oh and don't worry I'm not losing any sleep As for non confrontational...I try to present magic in a light hearted way but there always seem to be occasions especially when magic happens in the magicians hands where people do feel challenged to solve the puzzle...in the context of something like a coin flurry which is essentially what I was doing any thoughts on routining/ patter to soften things a bit? Jaz Okay you got me....he only examined one coin and the thing that probably got him was the fact that he had mentioned I should magic up a larger value coin, I was using a 50p peice at the time and had just fished in my pocket for a £2 to perform a spellbound...one spellbound later...job done...I love it when a plan comes together Cheers Mike Do yoou find yu get challenged often? If so do you have a way of softening things for the spectator? Chris |
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Frank Tougas Inner circle Minneapolis, MN 1712 Posts |
Anytime a spectator tells you even in a back handed manner that they don't know how you did your trick, it is a complement. Mark it on the good side of the "ledger" and move along, there is nothing to see here.
Frank Tougas
Frank Tougas The Twin Cities Most "Kid Experienced" Children's Performer :"Creating Positive Memories...One Smile at a Time"
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Dan LeFay Inner circle Holland 1371 Posts |
You've heard that his sister buys packet tricks. So I assume you were already in a friendly conversation. What's wrong about some little education from your side and talk about magic? About tricks that can be bought, but also, like you showed him, tricks that can not be bought but are sleight of hand. In Strong Magic Darwin has a chapter on "substantive meaning", one of the items being magic itself.
I wholeheartedly agree with him. Layaudiences love hearing about the secret magic world. Of course you do not explain tricks, but you can talk about tricks, illusions, routines etc. Who creates them, if they are for sale, and what it takes to learn such a thing. That there are conventions, secret sessions and world championships. You might change his way of seeing magic as buying tricks in a shop or on the internet.
"Things need not have happened to be true.
Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths, that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot." Neil Gaiman |
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mike gallo Inner circle 1341 Posts |
Cheers Mike
Do you find you get challenged often? If so do you have a way of softening things for the spectator? Chris, no...I no longer get challenged other than perhaps the occasional..."are those cards real" type questions. Perhaps it's because when I perform, I find myself as amazed as they are on the things happening...in other words...I'm one of them! Mike |
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
I typically get that when performing card effects - they think I use a trick deck. Then, I hand them the deck to shuffle and it blows their minds when I reveal their card. Just let the spectators fool themselves.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
A brother of a pal of mine came up to me with a coin trick he bought at a local shop and knowing I was into magic he did it for me. It worked because it was mechanical (I think it was Scotch and Soda)... anyway I borrowed the coins and did a few sleights (sleeveing, etc) and fried him.
He said "I didn't know those coins would do that." I told him it wasn't the coins but my magic power.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Bill Wells Elite user Lexington, VA 457 Posts |
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On 2005-11-15 14:50, mike gallo wrote: Hey Mike - I know where you can get a couple of videos and/or lecture notes that explain how you do your stuff so you won't be so amazed at what is happening? Bill ps - ...or come the CoinSeminar3 in Vegas and watch the Gallo guy. |
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mike gallo Inner circle 1341 Posts |
Hey Mike -
I know where you can get a couple of videos and/or lecture notes that explain how you do your stuff so you won't be so amazed at what is happening? Bill Hey Bill...do ya think that could help me ? Mike |
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Bill Wells Elite user Lexington, VA 457 Posts |
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On 2005-11-15 21:17, mike gallo wrote: Mike - You asked for it. Here's a start... There is a lot of stuff that's not here and I haven't included all the stuff that's been lifted with no credit to Mike Gallo... Now, you are going to have to figure out how to get in touch with this guy and how much of this stuff he is willing to sell you...I understand he spends a lot of time on the bus, so it might not be easy. Good Luck! Bill Mike Gallo. The Close Up Insider. 1996. Written by Paul Richards Mike Gallo Issue. Richard’s Almanac. 1984. Written by Richard Kaufman Presenting Michael Gallo. 2001. Video Tape produced by Randy Wakeman. Mike Gallo – Premiere Coin Magician – NY Coinmagic Seminar 2004. Video/DVD Produced by Qi Concept Productions. Mike Gallo Lecture Notes. 1983. Written by Richard Kaufman Mike Gallo – Siamese Coin Tape Tape/book/gimmick. 1996. Now also available on DVD. Mike Gallo – Visual Coin Assembly – effect with instructions and gimmick There are also Gallo routines/moves (performed by others) on: Early Ammar Volume 2 – World Class Close Up. Video. 1982 Vidonics. Rereleased by L&L Publishing 1999. Gallo Pitch Coins Across (two versions) Early Ammar Volume 3 – A Touch of Magic – Coins. Video. 1982. Vidonics. Rereleased by L&L Publishing 1999. Coins Through the Table Coins Across (Two Versions) Michael Rubinstein. Knockout Coin Magic. Volume 1. Videonics Rereleased by L&L Publishing 2001. Gallo Pitch (Lou) |
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Don Loyal user 215 Posts |
I see it more as a compliment to you since it was done so well,he thought they where fake coins. On the other hand he some what belittled your skill thinking that anyone can buy it and do it. Over all it is a compliment, since he will not be able to duplicate the trick.
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mike gallo Inner circle 1341 Posts |
Bill...that is totally amazing...I kid you not...I forgot about half that stuff! Seriously...Thanks for the Memories!!!
Mike |
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Magicmaven Inner circle 1235 Posts |
Many times, when someone performs something flawlessly, I automatically think there was some really easy move that allowed everything to be done, or, there is a gaff. This might be the same thing that that guy was thinking, in which, good job!
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
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On 2005-11-14 20:45, wmhegbli wrote: That's always been my answer; "What, there's a trick to this? And I've been doing it the hard way all these years!"
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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Chris "linkster" Watson Special user England 564 Posts |
I like the get out of "Oh you mean theres a trick to this" I will be using that next time.
I actually have found the whole thing interesting because I have always enjoyed the challenge of sleight of hand and enjoy learning the hard stuff however it does go to prove that it doen't really matter as long as the spectater sees magic...not a bunch of moves |
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mike gallo Inner circle 1341 Posts |
I actually have found the whole thing interesting because I have always enjoyed the challenge of sleight of hand and enjoy learning the hard stuff however it does go to prove that it doen't really matter as long as the spectater sees magic...not a bunch of moves
Exactly Chris...it's not what you do...it's what they think you do...MAGIC! Mike |
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Malcolm Kavalsky Regular user 114 Posts |
I had a similar experience last night. After doing Roth's Winged Silver effect, one of the spectators "exposed" the method, saying that I must be flicking the coins from hand to hand really fast just as I released them.
I wasn't quite sure what to do about this remark, but simply gave him the coins to try. After a few unsuccessful attempts, he kind of gave up and said, "I guess it really takes a lot of practice!" |
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